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  1. bnovc

    bnovc Well-Known Member

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    I would like to get some input on what I should be buying next for my wardrobe.

    Own now: (* = would like to phase out)
    - Shoes
    - AE Strand Captoe Walnut
    - AE Neumok Snuff Suede
    - *Random black loafers
    - Suits (normally don't wear these jackets but wear the trousers)
    - Macy's Alfani black with light pinstripes
    - Gray suit from Rick's tailoring
    - Pants
    - Light gray, cotton from Express
    - * Medium/dark gray, cotton from Express (not as long as I would like)
    - Dark blue jeans, Express (not sure on these, they seem to sit weird) - usually on wear these on the weekends
    - Shirts
    - 1MX Express shirts in (solids): black, bright red, purple, dark green, gray - these are all a bit too tight, and I think they're too dark to wear with anything except casually with jeans
    - BB white French cuff
    - ModernTailor white French cuff
    - Random brand reversible dark brown/black belt
    - Guess steel watch

    I don't wear a suit jacket or tie often. Partially because I don't think I look better with it (I wouldn't be surprised if I'm convinced otherwise reading here long enough) and partially because I work at an engineering company where I'm already the most dressed up.

    Things I'm thinking about getting next:
    - small check white/purple dress shirt with a button down collar - I want to have shirts that aren't as super-casual/inappropriate with dress pants as the solid Express shirts I have now. I wanted to get a button down collar because it seems popular here when not wearing a tie.
    - a new belt, because I want one that is lighter to go better with my shoes and I would like one of those flat buckles (looks like a rectangle, don't know if it has a name)
    - a light blue dress shirt with button down collar

    Do others think I'm on the right track with this? Suggestions for something different?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    Eh?
     
  3. macintosh85

    macintosh85 Well-Known Member

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    Its a charcoal suit with a blue window pane. I just meant it was probably unlikely they were separates. But I could be wrong. I just usually think of separates as solid color suits but they do sell pattern suits as separates. The suit is a Hickey freeman.
     
  4. Citan1145

    Citan1145 Senior member

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    So, can anyone give me a suggestion on where to find a seersucker suit with double vents ?
     
  5. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    There is no correlation to pattern and whether or not a suit can be sold as separates. Go into a Macy's, JC Penney or Kohls and you will see pinstripe suit separates. That said, I have generally only seen separates available on lower-end models. That doesn't mean it can't happen, I suppose.
     
  6. Stone34

    Stone34 Active Member

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    Hey has anyone ever bought a Made to Measure suit... and when it was delivered it was way too small in the pants and jacket?
    What did you do??

    This suit is beyond being fixed to fit me... if it was too big it could be tailored to fit. But too small, you can't make it longer or bigger.

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks~
     
  7. srmd22

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    Greetings, I'm new here (first post), and just starting to take an interest in nice men's clothing. I am finally at a point in life where I can afford a few nice outfits, and I recently bought a few otr "signature" suits at Jos A Bank (just to dip my toes in the water, so to speak), and a few pairs of casual shoes, that would probably be considered inexpensive and prosaic by most of the experienced forum members here (e.g. Sperry, Sebego)-- not to wear together by the way; just bought 'em at the same time. I have a few "nice" pairs of shoes-- don't know if they would withstand the scrutiny of experts, but they are functional. A couple of Ferragamos which I really like, a pair of Johnston and Murphy (which will lead me to my first question, in a moment), Bostonian, Donald J. Pliner. Nothing particularly special, although one of the pair of Ferragamo loafers cost about $400, which for me was the most I've ever dropped on shoes. Got some cowboy boots too.

    I can pretty much wear what I want to work. I've been wearing sports coats and ties as well as suits the last couple of weeks, and I would say I am overdressed. Most of my colleagues wear chinos and polo shirts or regular shirts, with casual shoes, like rockport, timberland, sperry-- you know, the comfy, pseudo dressy kind of shoe, or I guess office casual. I generally only "dress up" when I have client meetings in town or away, or business meetings with high level officers within the company. So when I do put on a tie, I get "got a meeting today?" or, "going to see a client" etc. Lately I have to say, "Nope, just felt like throwing on a tie," or "Hoping to get lucky." I figure people will get used to it after awhile. I am director of the department, so people get a bit paranoid when I make a change, even if it is just playing around. It's kinda funny, but not the reason I do it. Having said that, the company has a loose dress code -- no jeans or t-shirts except on casual Fridays, and amongst the pathologists this is not particularly enforced in my division.

    So my first question is this: I have a pair of tassels, the J&M I referred to above. I realize, from lurking around a bit, that tassel loafers are a big no no for a lot of people, but clearly they have some fans, or they would not sell. I admit, I kinda like mine. I think they cost between $150 and $200, which is not super rich but could be considered at least very nice for those on a modest budget. I have to say, I have gotten complements on them many times at work and social events, clearly from people as sartorially challenged as myself, but still.

    My question is this: technically, according to proper etiquette, whatever that means, are tassel loafers only for casual or sports coat attire? I have, in my ignorance, worn them with suits many times, and never heard a disparaging word, or seen a snide look, and never thought twice about the combo. I have done a search, and found a hint of information, but no solid body of opinion on this.

    So: would an experienced sartorialist ever wear tassels with a suit? Are they frowned upon completely-- and to be avoided with any outfit, including casual? Also, can you wear non-tassel loafers with a suit (I know you can, but is it a faux pas, by strict etiquette standards)?

    Is the answer some platitude, like "if you feel confident and can pull it off, then go for it," or, "if it works for you that's all that matters?" That won't help me too much, as I already wear whatever I want, and nobody really cares. I'm looking to see if there are some formal guidelines, or at least loose consensus for some of these issues, like the tassel loafer issue, what color socks go with what outfit (got my answer to that from reading posts here-- thanks!), how to choose a tie for an outfit -- stripes on stripes, pattern on pattern? That sort of thing.

    Well, that was the long winded way to ask about the appropriateness of tassel loafers, sorry!

    Thanks for reading.
     
  8. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    A modestly experienced SF member, like myself, will tell you that the consensus is as follows:

    Loafers, by definition, are strictly casual wear ( for loafing ). In today's sartorially absent society, 99% of people will not think twice about seeing loafers with a suit. I would say that a lounge suit (country look) would look better with loafers if you are set on the look. Business suits ( city look ) would favor shoes with closed lacing ( oxfords ).

    Just a guide, hope that helped...
     
  9. JubeiSpiegel

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    In retrospect, how familiar are you with a proper suit fit? Some pics of you wearing the suit would help.
     
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    I've got almost 10K saved anyway :)
     
  11. srmd22

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    Yes, that clears it up! Thanks for a straightforward and clear answer.

    It's kinda funny, because my loafers are more $ and nicer then my one pair of lace up dress shoes. This gives me an excuse to purchase some nice dress shoes.
     
  12. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    It's a slippery slope, welcome to SF. You're going to like it here...
     
  13. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You should buy a Rubinacci suit and two pairs of good English shoes.
     
  14. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    I thought 10k would only get you a Rubinacci suit? :confused:
     
  15. Yika

    Yika Senior member

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    [quot% name="Stone34" url="/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/15675#post_5557403"]Hey has anyone ever bought a Made to Measure suit... and when it was delivered it was way too small in the pants and jacket?
    What did you do??

    This suit is beyond being fixed to fit me... if it was too big it could be tailored to fit.  But too small, you can't make it longer or bigger.

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks~
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    Is it one of the online MTM or did you actually visit an actual store?

    Check the return policy and any policy that would enable you%2pfor a remake - refund.

    If it slightly too small/short, if could be some allowance left to make it longer/bigger.
     

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