I've always been a t-shirt guy, and have no clue about dress shirts. Never really paid attention to them. But after seeing these first two attached pictures I would like to try it out for the summer. Problem is that I hate long shirts/sweaters etc. And dress shirts always have that annoying drop on the front and back side which makes them go too far down. I don't like it when upper body pieces are so long that they cover the butt. See the red line in attached picture three for the drop part I'm talking about. But the first too pictures doesn't look so bad. They stay pretty high up, and don't appear to have that drop part. Or maybe they just aren't dropping that much on the front side? And I would hate them if I looked behind? Am I blind? Or do shirts like this exist? Because I only seem to find ones with the dropping thingy. If I understand correctly and you want something cut straight across (i.e. without the "drop part"), I think you'll have a hard time finding anything, and I would caution against it anyway. The shirt will probably look weirdly shapeless cut that way. You're better off looking for shirts that just aren't long. Band of Outsiders and Naked & Famous tend to have shorter lengths. Or, if you find a shirt you like that you think is too long, you could just take it to a tailor. A decent tailor could shorten it easily and cheaply. I'm wearing a shirt right now that I had shortened to a length that allows me to wear it tucked or untucked. Voila!