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Ascots

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by JuniorJetSet, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. JuniorJetSet

    JuniorJetSet Well-Known Member

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    Have ascots gone the way of the colonies; are they terribly anachronistic? Would a young person wearing one today seem like a pretentious jerk?
    It seems the only people who still wear ascots are retired Hollywood or Broadway producers. I just wanted to get people's opnions on this, not that I'm considering buying one. Thanks
     
  2. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    DandySF Senior member

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    The kind of person who would have worn an ascot in years past wouldn't be caught dead in one today. The ascot and its admirers are dead. It's a wonder they're even available for sale.

    On a related note, I was surprised to receive an Hermes catalog which featured several items which I can only describe as being neck scarves for men. I guess they'd be tied loosely around the neck.
     
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    I had to look up what you were talking about. Here's my opinion - be aware I'm a pretty shabby dresser.

    If you went to shopping in one, you'd look like an eccentric or a tit. However if you went clubbing in one, or some extravagant party, you might be able to pull it off.

    For this kind of stuff I think the context of where you'll be wearing them,what other clothes you wear with them (the attitude you wear them with) - will be more important than possible pretentiousness.
     
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    I'd better add I'm quite eccentric. (I just checked with a work colleague.)
     
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    I see them every now and again in europe. I don't think that a young man can pull them off easily.

    I do think that there is one good place for a very simple ascot, or better yet a scarf worn like an ascot - when you are flying and wearing a suit without a tie (ties can be really hard on a plane) you can wear a scarf or ascot instead. but again, it needs to be very simple.
     
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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think they finish the neckline if a tie is not called for. If worn with two buttons open on a shirt you might need a stainless steel ego but a disceet half inch of silk doesn't raise any eyebrows.

    Will
     
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    The following people can wear ascots:

    1. Michael Caine
    2. Prince, King or Sultan insert-name-here

    Anyone else, IMHO, should avoid them.

    We have our segment of dandy types here, which are more than welcome to try....and certainly they have more sartorial $tone$ than I do. I just think they have reached the realm of being costume at this point.
     
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    An ascot is probably one of those items that should only be worn only by those who are thoroughly unconcerned with whether or not it is 'acceptable' to wear them.
     
  11. LA Guy

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    Agree with Manton. Also acceptable during the Royal Ascot, I'd assume, and even then, only for a kicks.
     
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    Dandy-san:
    Hermes has relaunched a neckscarf variant on the Ascot it calls, in typical butch fashion, the Twilly. It's supposedly more scarflike than the ascot. In a similar vein, Kilgour (tailors to my Emperor) is now selling a "men's choker" scarf it calls the Slim Jude, for you know who.
    While I favor bespoke lace jabots and gold-braided capes on camera, off-the-show a nice ascot and a large single malt do me well for putting up my feet by the fire in drafty Kitchen Stadium.
     
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    I direct ascot fans to the Boston band The Upper Crust and their song "I've Got My Ascot 'n' My Dickie".
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    On the Royal Ascot, Manton writes:

    My brother, who is now at Oxford, tells me that they are uncommon, though not unheard of, during the event (I think that he likes the costume).

    Interestingly enough, the same type of guys who would have worn an ascot with an open collared shirt, or even a tail-less dinner jacket into polite society, are today probably the guys wearing hoodies under sports jackets and pairing straight ties with tuxedos (even... notch collared tuxedos), with the older generation looking on in horror. Just some food for thought.
     
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    (Keith T @ 19 Oct. 2004, 09:29) The following people can wear ascots: 1. Â Michael Caine 2. Â Prince, King or Sultan insert-name-here
    Perhaps add George Hamilton. Â Otherwise, good list.
    a couple more: Tony Curtis. Paul Linde would wear one if he were alive. and if you look in the latest Wallpaper magazine, one of the designers whose project is featured is wearing one. it seems to be a real 'peacock' type of item. /andrew
     
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    I actually think a lot of men past 'a certain age' would look perfectly fine with one, assuming they were otherwise appropriately attired.
     
  19. JuniorJetSet

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    I agree. Looking at photos of young aristocrats today (Princes William and Harry are good examples) a nice tailored navy blazer and a pale blue shirt looks effortlessly elegant.
     
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    I confess that I own and have worn an ascot. My wife, however, does not like them so I have bowed to her preferences regarding the ascot to this point (she's generally sartorially supportive). I think there are situations where they would be perfectly appropriate, although I agree one might wish to pick his spots. [​IMG]
     

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