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Must have a special account with CCP. Lol! Been a while since CCP stopped producing that color. Miss the fencing jacket and that color.Dude looks good.
one of the fundamental problems of the Artisanal Niche from the very beginning is that a lot of its fans favored and promoted certain designers while ignoring others. it made it quite difficult to introduce new labels to the point where those labels are not particularly known to people who are not ardent fans or industry insidersSo... I noticed earlier in this thread there was some discussion of the lack of innovation in this area, that basically the labels that the thread started with (and others that followed) have basically continued to do the same thing. I've been looking back on old seasons and seeing who's come and gone and there's still been very little that's changed with a very small number of exceptions (both in particular seasons for established labels and particular new, smaller ones).
I guess what I am looking for is the artisinal ethic and aesthetic but just not monochrome. I want to see innovative use of dyes and dye-processes, materials and texture, like Japanese workwear firms do (but more so), but with more of the aesthetic that this thread is promoting (I'm not looking for smooth high fashion stuff). I had high hopes for By Walid and Abasi Rosborough has done some interesting things; Rosen too. I've even found individual pieces from KKA that try harder and there's the odd thing I've noticed from Damir Doma, Avant Toi and Lost & Found. But it's still predominantly the same old, same old.
Are there any up-and-coming, obscure, interesting labels, or particular past seasons of old favorites, where some chances are being taken, some experimentation going on with materials, textures and colour? Or am just way off base even asking about this here? Feel free to tell me where the exit is...
one of the fundamental problems of the Artisanal Niche from the very beginning is that a lot of its fans favored and promoted certain designers while ignoring others. it made it quite difficult to introduce new labels to the point where those labels are not particularly known to people who are not ardent fans or industry insiders
there are a lot of brands who have done good work and continue to do good work across many styles and taste within the artisanal spectrum
John Alexander Skelton, I have not handled his work in person but seen lots of it and it looks interesting.
Archivo JM Ribot
Beik Verstappen
Roggykei
Alexandr Manamis
there are a lot of others, but those just to name a few
guys like Jan Jan Van Essche, are doing great work.Thanks for these suggestions. I will investigate further. Just from a quick look: Archivio JM Ribot, I really like; Manamis is interesting too.
And of course yourself... I should say I admire what you do, but it isn't me.
So... I noticed earlier in this thread there was some discussion of the lack of innovation in this area, that basically the labels that the thread started with (and others that followed) have basically continued to do the same thing. I've been looking back on old seasons and seeing who's come and gone and there's still been very little that's changed with a very small number of exceptions (both in particular seasons for established labels and particular new, smaller ones).
I guess what I am looking for is the artisinal ethic and aesthetic but just not monochrome. I want to see innovative use of dyes and dye-processes, materials and texture, like Japanese workwear firms do (but more so), but with more of the aesthetic that this thread is promoting (I'm not looking for smooth high fashion stuff). I had high hopes for By Walid and Abasi Rosborough has done some interesting things; Rosen too. I've even found individual pieces from KKA that try harder and there's the odd thing I've noticed from Damir Doma, Avant Toi and Lost & Found. But it's still predominantly the same old, same old.
Are there any up-and-coming, obscure, interesting labels, or particular past seasons of old favourites, where some chances are being taken, some experimentation going on with materials, textures and colour? Or am just way off base even asking about this here? Feel free to tell me where the exit is...
I think Bode is Artisanal, Artisanal means different things to different people, but I think rather than seeing artisanal as a visual aesthetic, a look I often look at it as a way of working.I don't mind what we call Bode, but it's awful - I've said that before on this forum and don't want to labour the point. But in the context of this thread it's worth me saying why. I'd say it's the opposite of what this thread would consider 'artisanal' - it's exploiting the idea of 'artisanal' (in its literal sense) Americana to produce kitsch. Someone mentioned Kapital as a comparison when we discussed this elsewhere, and I disagreed, but I can see it now, not because I think better of Bode, but because a lot of what Kapital produces is kitsch too. It does some genuinely interesting things, some even actually artisanal (again, in the literal sense: mud-dyed sashiko denim for example), but a lot of crap that it gets away with because of the name.
On the American labels that are gone, I wonder whether it's in the nature of firms in this area either to be innovative and short-lived (and usually only appreciated after they are gone) or to find a (profitable-enough) groove and stick with it. God knows, it's hard enough to make a living in this business.
I think Bode is Artisanal, Artisanal means different things to different people, but I think rather than seeing artisanal as a visual aesthetic, a look I often look at it as a way of working.
by that i mean that I consider clothes that are produced through non industrialized processes and by skilled artisans rather than in a large production factory, to be artisanal
Many like Ria Dunn of Lost and found have walked away.
Thanks for these suggestions. I will investigate further. Just from a quick look: Archivio JM Ribot, I really like; Manamis is interesting too.
And of course yourself... I should say I admire what you do, but it isn't me.