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are Yoshida Porter bags worth their high price?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jeromestyle, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. jeromestyle

    jeromestyle Senior member

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    they are just nylon bags but cost a fortune.
    I mean the Yoshida Tokyo, made in Japan.
    Why are they so expensive and what kind of people buy them in its home country, Japan, and outside Japan?
    Are they very popular in Japan or only for the rich and famous?
     
  2. JamesX

    JamesX Senior member

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    Worthy is subjective :) To me they are not. I hate Nylon.
     
  3. Kei-bon

    Kei-bon Senior member

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    they are very popular in Japan. I wouldn't say they cost "a fortune"; they're a bit pricey, but there are certainly far more expensive bags out there, and Yoshida have a lot of lines at various price points.

    I love mine. all the materials used (including zippers and strap hardware) seem to be of a high quality, and the interior pockets and compartments are well thought-out.

    also, not all "nylon" is equal.
     
  4. ocsine

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    Short answer: yes. I bought the porter monocle short hauler bag 2 years ago and it is still going strong. It garners comments wherever I use it.

    Rob
     
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    hangthree Senior member

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    +1

    I, too, have this bag. It is great and I often use it as an overnighter for business trips (eg. its my briefcase and suitcase).
     
  6. KitAkira

    KitAkira Senior member

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    The Yoshida x Kitsune bag is really nice, 600GBP is more than a little steep though
     
  7. bbaquiran

    bbaquiran Senior member

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    I have several Porter bags including a couple of the nylon Tanker bags you're probably referring to. They are very well made as far as nylon bags go. I've been using one daily carrying a heavy Lenovo laptop and accessories (adapter, cables, etc.) and it is holding up beautifully.
     
  8. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Could you be more specific? What you do mean by "high price?"

    In Japan, they're very reasonably priced, for their level of quality. Nylon bags are in the 17,000-25,000 range, ($200-300 at current exchanges) with full leather bags 40-50k yen. The most expensive Porter I've seen was about 60,000 yen, or around $700, and those are ones that would easily be $2500-3000 from a Euro brand (Prada, Gucci, etc.)

    I find them (in Japan) to be about the best bang-for-buck you can get; you pay $200-300 for crappy Kenneth Cole garbage...

    They are nearly ubiquitous in Japan; currently the "go to" brand for younger japanese guys, in college, for work, etc. Any train ride will find you seeing half a dozen or more Porter bags from their various lines (and they've got DOZENS of lines from nylon backpacks to full leather briefcases.)

    As such, the "fortune" you mention may just be various stores trying to capitalize on limited distribution... the same way that those margiela Aids tshirts are really $45 or so yet Barney's and some other places charge $110 for them just because they suck.
     
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  9. jeromestyle

    jeromestyle Senior member

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    Many thanks.
    if you compare the Monocle edition to the other ones in the Tokyo shop, what is the difference. the higher price?
     
  10. apropos

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    Not so if my Googling skills are failing, but seriously guys - a white nylon duffel bag?

    Never understood why people pay as much for nylon as a good leather bag. Even 'better' nylon is dirt cheap to procure when compared to leather, and nylon guarantees you a machine-made bag. And it's not as if you need specialised tools or high level sewing skills to work with nylon.

    Sure it has some technical and practical benefits over leather, but the from the moment you purchase it it starts going downhill in terms of looks, and the crinkles - ugh.
     
  11. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    haven't compared the two side-by-side, but from looking at a few pics, it appears just to be the same porter materials, but different designs. SO, I'd say... yeah... probably the higher price due to what they perceive as "exclusivity," but substantively it looks similar to the basic nylon/canvas bags that run 17,000-19.000 yen ($175-200 USD)

    Those with more specific knowledge can correct if I'm way off. BUT, yeah, I'd say you are paying more because they want you to pay more. :lol:
     
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  12. jeromestyle

    jeromestyle Senior member

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    ic, so where is the best place (i mean, price) to buy Yoshida Tokyo at the best price?
    do they have sales? Can I buy online or should I ask a Japanese to buy for me?
    What about warranty, do they offer one and for how long?

    thank u
     
  13. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Dunno. I don't see sales much, though, as it is quite popular.
    Use a proxy service, I guess. There are many around. I'm not really familiar with how to get Porter outside Japan, as I"m here all the time.

    Note: I'm NOT a proxy, so please people reading this thread don't email me asking me to get you something. Ain't gonna happen. Tried to be nice a few years back and it was a nightmare.

    p.s. please tell me you're not former member "stylemeup" with a new name???
     
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  14. jeromestyle

    jeromestyle Senior member

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    stylemeup? never heard that
     
  15. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Whew, thank goodness.

    Anyway, we've had lots of porter discussions around here, including many/most in Street Wear and Denim, where the brand is oft-discussed. It might be useful to look there as well.

    Good luck in your search; Porter is a decent brand, especially at the japanese pricepoint. I'd never consider it a good deal at twice retail, which is what it appears to be elsewhere. It's NOT a luxury brand, and is very utilitarian. I think some non-Japanese stores are latching onto the super-premium "workwear" vibe to try and get people to part with dear $$$. BUT, at the end of the day, it's a very good $250 bag. It's not a good $500, $600, or $800 bag.
     
  16. Kei-bon

    Kei-bon Senior member

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    the Monocle Porter bags look a bit like a series Porter did for the select shop Beams years ago, but are significantly more expensive.

    I think it's almost impossible to find Porter on sale. Maybe at an individual shop in Japan, a few seasonal items at the end of the season.

    pretty sure mine came with a warranty, but i can't find it now.

    That's exactly the mental image I had when i read the OP's question.
     
  17. radicaldog

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    Bump. I'm really interested in the Tanker three-way travel bag, but I'm in Europe and I can't help thinking that I'd be paying premium for a mid-market product. Am I wrong?

    Perhaps more importantly, any alternatives for a practical but not too ugly travel backpack that opens flat and is not too big? Another option I'm considering is the Goruck G1.

    Cheers!
     
  18. ike_hiking_boots

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    Try eBay - lots of sellers in Japan.

    Porter are fantastic quality but are expensive for that they are.
     

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