Are these too square toe?

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    Thank you for your helpful post and for ignoring my question. I am reminded why I stopped coming to SF years ago. I briefly skimmed through your post history and can see you have nothing else better to do than to criticize. Get a life.

    Asshole.
     


  4. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    They aren't as square as 1990s era Kenneth Coles, but if they are trying for a chisel toe, it is too wide and not well executed. The wingtip design is not attractive either as it extends way too far back for a shortwing IMO, so far back that they have to cut into the heel counter. This is just my opinion, but for comparison, here are a few examples of well executed chisel toe shortwings:

    C&J Drummond (semi-austerity), 348 last
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    Vass U last, model 1075
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    Enzo Bonafe, 946 last
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    Thanks for the constructive feedback, Fred.
     


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    Looks decent for sub $100!
     


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    Thanks, chogall. I scored a pair for $75 + tax but started having my doubts about the purchase once I saw the tapered square toe in person (purchased online). Fred's point about the long wingtip design also gave me additional things to think about. I plan to look at other sub-$100 options this weekend before making a final decision.
     
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    chogall Senior member

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    At sub $100, you really do not have many options/flexibilities, unless you are willing to settle for used or deeply discounted seconds.

    Maybe some vintage Florsheim long wing bluchers (v-cleat 5 nails) will be better served while you save up for better shoes
     


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    While the Cole Haan's toe you cited is just not attractive (for all the reasons cited above):
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    Here's a Mercanti Fiorentini (a DSW in-house brand I believe) from the same site, about $50 more, but at least has a better executed shape:
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    I'm not recommending it, just pointing you at something similar within reach of the same price, that is a better example.

    Hope that helps!
     


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    I've tried on those Cole Haans. They look better in person, but they are too square. Also whoever took that top-down shot of the Haans wasn't quite straight overhead.

    The Mercanti-whatevers (DSW housebrand, yes) are appreciably less-well-made than the Haans in person, and less comfortable. Also, the scaling is off – they run a bit small, and have a ton of toe extension, so they end up looking a bit elfish.
     


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    Good info all around but the bold part is very keen - the fact that the shoe looks proportionate in the pic doesn't mean it will on your foot; especially if it forces you to size up or down. I've been bitten by that before and it's particularly disappointing since I was in love with the shoe, but the scale didn't work when I had to play games with sizing to get it to fit.
     


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    Gentlemen, thank you for your input. I agree with YRR92 that the Haans look better in person.

    I tried these on today, which I thought were comparable to the Haans: http://www.dsw.com/shoe/aston+grey+boyle+wingtip+oxford?prodId=322262&productRef=CROSS:

    I know Aston Grey can be hit or miss, but I've had good luck with the brand over the years and find the DSW house brand to be among the best values for under $100. I'll be shopping around some more this weekend and will use everyone's comments to help guide my decision making. Thank you for restoring my faith in SF.
     


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