Are these suits worth $500?

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  1. bimsalabim

    bimsalabim Active Member

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    I recently purchased a couple Hickey Freeman suits from STP, which I came to learn are actually Hickey Freeman Ltd (Lindsay Model). I paid just under $500 for each suit.

    I brought the suits to a tailor this weekend thinking that I still had received a good deal despite the fact that they were not mainline Hickey Freeman. The tailor did not think so, and pointed to some Baroni suits that he had on the rack for $489, (with about $90 in alterations included--he is a good tailor in the area). He said they were manufactured in the same factor as E. Zegna, and were of a much higher quality than what I had brought into the store. I have several questions:

    1.) Did I receive a good deal on the Hickey Freeman Ltd. suits?
    2.) Has anyone heard of Baroni (Prive line), and are they of better quality than the HF Ltd.? Are they full or half-canvass? I have seen that they can be had for less than $400 from online retailers--are those individuals reliable?
    3.) If not either of these brands, what is my best bet for a suit in $500 area?

    First and foremost, I need to decide whether to return the HF Ltd. suits. Then it's back to the drawing board. I am not in an extreme rush to get a new suit, but I also can't wait until something shows up at Nordstrom Rack.

    All this aside, I am looking for some solid suits (charcoal, black, or navy). I'm just under 6'1", 180 lbs. I have found that 40R suits are too small for my shoulders and chest, but I don't really fill out a traditional 42R suit, so I am thinking that my best bet is a European 52R, or slim/tapered 42. If it means getting a much better suit, I am open to spending a bit more.

    Any advice would be much appreciated, and I apologize in advance if this thread is redundant.
     
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  2. Twotone

    Twotone Senior member

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    Hickey Freeman mainline suits have been my first choice for 10 years. One of the few makes I can find in 39R. All six I currently own were on sale for under $400 each. I would not buy the LTD line as they are not unfused fully canvased and use cheaper fabric and construction. Return it.
     


  3. bimsalabim

    bimsalabim Active Member

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    Thank you for the quick response. Where have you been able to find Hickey Freeman mainline for $400?

    If anyone can point me to reliable clothiers that carry the suits they suggest, I would very much appreciate it (online or in the Boston area-- I'm also willing to travel to certain parts of New Hampshire, too).
     


  4. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    No. That's a shxtty deal. You could buy a mtm of the same quality for about the same price...maybe less. I don't care about the brand. You got raped.
     


  5. reidrothchild

    reidrothchild Senior member

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    Saks Off 5th usually has a nice selection of mainline HF for $500. Sometimes the clearance section on HF's website has suits from the "Hickey" or "Sterling" line for less than $500. Both are half canvassed and generally higher quality than the Ltd line. Outside of HF, check out Yoox for LBM 1911, Boglioli, Piombo, and Lardini suits. They all go on sale at the end of the season for $500 or less. The problem is finding one in your size by the time they get that low. These will generally be unstructured and/or more casual looking than HF, but will give you the trimmer fit. Stay away from Baroni.
     


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  7. jeff13007

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    "Brioni" is not the same brand as "Baroni" the former starts at about 5k USD and they have their own factory, And i really highly doubt "Baroni" the latter is produced in the same factory as E. Zegna or is in anyway near the same level of fabric and construction quality.
     


  8. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    The Baroni is a fully canvassed suit. They are factory made in China and the seller does swear that the factory also produces for the lower end Zegna line. As are their sister suits - 'Marco Valentino'. I have two and they are incredible suits for the money.

    If you have slim build the Marco Valentinos are cut quite snug.

    The buttons were cheap and plasticy so I changed them out for horn. I promise you this $300 suit looks and wears every bit as elegantly as a Canali suit at 5 times the price.

    However, fabric choices, are limited and often less than inspiring.
     


  9. jeff13007

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    E.Zegna made in China? I always thought they were from switzerland/italy and spain. I mean i have run across a Tom Ford suit that is issued to their employees that had a Zegna makers label but said "Made in China" But i doubt that their mainline stuff that they sell in the their stores is made there.

    Edit: Z zenga maybe?
     
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  10. bimsalabim

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    Of course. That was just a typo. In reading some of the posts on the thread that Gdot linked, it seems that I was fed some BS, and that Baroni's connection (if it could properly be considered one at all) is to Corneliani. In any case, I don't know that I will be purchasing one of these suits.

    The HF Ltd. suits are certainly being sent back to STP. For $6 return shipping, its a lesson well learned.

    I guess its back to the drawing board. I appreciate the suggestions, Reid. Any others are certainly welcome.
     


  11. Gdot

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    Have you considered Suit Supply in NYC?

    I have no personal experience of them but at that price point they seem to get a good bit of admiration.
     


  12. jeff13007

    jeff13007 Senior member

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    Try Suit supply and Benjamin Sartoriale which are round on ehabedasher.com.
     


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    Suit supply, Benjamin, yoox and Brooks brothers on sale
     


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    What is the consensus on Benjamin Sartorial suits? They look to be around $525 dollars on eHaberdasher. Good deal? How is the fit?
     


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    Whilst 'expensive', if YOU are happy with them they are a good deal.
     


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