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Are these made by C&J?

UNOAIMX

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But be aware, I noticed a decline in BB Peals leather quality over the last few years, at-least more hit-and-miss experiences, a few other forum members can probably also attest to it.
 

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Are you referring to the cavalry calf offerings?
 

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Not sure what Calvary calf is, but I feel the samples at the store showroom have gone down in quality since a few years ago...maybe the staff are getting too lazy to shine/care for them compared to few years back, or I might have gotten too snobbish recently after wearing shoes higher up the food chain than peal/CJ bench grade...
as often happens when you hang around SF for a while
 

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They get pretty lazy on polishing. Haven’t noticed a change in leather quality since they stick with the same models across seasons.
 

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By using a BB gift card purchased at a discount from a gift card exchange, I can now get these for $423 (plus tax). Seems like a pretty fair deal for C&J shoes, even if they're just bench.
 

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Go for it. Can’t go wrong for staples like these.
 

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