I'll jump in here. After MUCH research and self-debate I pulled the trigger on my first piece. I copped the Camosun Parka in black, size small at a discount from Sporting Life. It arrived today and the jacket is beautiful. Not too sure why @caligari says its "crap" compared to the Therme? Please elaborate. One problem though (which appears to be a common theme with Arc and AV pieces) is the sizing. I'm 5',8", 168 lbs with an athletic fit and I went with the small. Um....nope! The arm length and coat length is spot on but the cost is way too tight in the chest area (I have a roughly 41" chest). I tried it on with a light hoodie and just a tshirt and it was pretty tight. I contacted customer service to track down a medium for me instead as that should give me more breathing room when layering; however I'm a little worried the sleeve length and cost length won't be as spot on. I'll update once I get the new jacket and return this small. Hopefully this info helps anyone curious about sizing on this particular jacket.