- Jan 17, 2010
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It sounds like aside from the cuff issue, that directly using proper cloth measurements otherwise worked well?I would like to say that I really like Apposta and I’ve placed three orders with them at this point and have worn 3 of the shirts so far. Here are my thoughts:
My initial order arrived and it was obvious pretty quickly that I inputted the cuff measurement incorrectly (I was just cloning a shirt that fit well already). The other place I order shirts (Proper Cloth) uses a buttonhole to button measurement. Apposta uses the entire length of the cuff. That's a noticeable difference and was entirely my fault. So I inquired about whether I could buy some new, larger cuffs and they just remade the shirt for me. That was unexpectedly good customer service and really unnecessary.
.I have received the replacement shirt and wore it today actually. All shirts I have received are really nice and well made. All stitching was straight and without issue. The button stitching was well done. There were not extraneous threads on the shirt. They have a touch less stitches per inch than Proper Cloth but I doubt that will have any effect on the shirt over time. Interestingly, and FWIW, the shirts are made in Italy, while PC shirts are made in Vietnam these days.
For measurements, I just used the numbers I use with Proper Cloth. Other than the cuffs, it was a very nice fit. I ordered the "spread" collar, which is a bigger collar and it's perfect for me. It's very similar to the Roma Cutaway that I order from Proper Cloth but a tiny bit smaller.
The mother of pearl buttons are good, but a bit thin and small in diameter. I initially thought I didn’t like the buttons but am now quite happy with them, especially as there is no upcharge for MOP buttons.
The yoke is a one piece yoke whereas you can get a split yoke with other manufacturers. People tout a split yoke as fitting better but I don't notice an issue with this shirt.
As to fabric, for my initial shirt I chose a Thomas Mason Giza 45 twill in light blue and love it. This shade is one shade darker than the blue Proper Cloth offers (Apposta has that fabric and calls is "Cyan"). This brings up a bigger subject. Apposta has a superior fabric offering and they have every fabric I am looking for. I have noticed over time that Proper Cloth has big holes in its offering. By way of example, if I wanted something from the Thomas Mason Hampton collection (their Giza 45 twill offerings), Apposta has every swatch that is offered, which may be 20-25 different ones. Proper Cloth might have 6-7. Maybe...and those are consistently out of stock. I'll give you another example. Proper Cloth has a "Thomas Mason luxury white broadcloth" fabric. It's just a 120/2 poplin. They don't tell you the weight or the book its from, even though Thomas Mason has two different ones, one being lighter in weight than the other; the Byron Kent book and the Portland book respectively. Apposta has both books and everything in them so you can really order exactly what you want. I realize that maybe everyone won't get "that" into details but I do, and I can appreciate a place that allows me to do that.
In addition to the vast fabric selection, their pricing is very good. The same Giza 45 fabrics I’ve been ordering are easily $70-80 more at Proper Cloth than Apposta. Beyond the stitching, button offering (FYI you have to pay extra for MOP buttons at Proper Cloth and you don't at Apposta), and the yoke construction, I really don't see a difference that would merit spending the Proper Cloth premium.
To date, I have placed three orders with Apposta for a grand total of 6 shirts. I intend to place more orders in the future and will probably make the switch to them for MTM shirts going forward