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Appeal of Panerai?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dopey, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What i sthe appeal of Panerai watches? This i not a knock on them, as I understand people like things for different reasons. I personally don't understand why they are interesting or attractive or otherwise worthwhile. But there must be something to it. Or is it just that you either get it or you don't, and I don't?
     
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    Dopey, Panerai is a classic military watch with more design appeal than many German, Swiss or US watches of similar antecedent. The watch designs go right back to the second world war, perhaps earlier, I'm not a student of watches. The design is simple - uncluttered field, large numbers, luminous indicators - which makes them ideal for field use in low light.

    Personally, I find the watches too large, but they are exemplars of good industrial design IMO. they are the horologic equilavent to the red stripe down the leg of the carbinari - bold.



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  4. mafoofan

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    I like the playful straightforwardness of the dial layout and case design. While the watches are bold due to size, the execution of the details is very fine and almost painfully simple. The curves of the Radiomir case are particularly pretty.

    Of course, I hate almost all of the non-basic models.
     
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    voxsartoria Senior member

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    What history explains the scale of the watch?

    Am I correct in recalling it had something to do with being worn around outerwear?

    - B
     
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    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What history explains the scale of the watch?

    Am I correct in recalling it had something to do with being worn around outerwear?

    - B


    It had to be worn over a diving suit, but that would only have required a longer strap. The real cause for the size was that it had to be large enough to be clearly read underwater and withstand a lot of water pressure.
     
  7. braised

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    This history of military watches is that of utility. Solid casings house and secure mechanisms, even providing some magnetic shielding - remember panerais are mechanical watches. Large, uncluttered dials are easy to read; an asset in low light. The curves in all directions manage the profile of the watch so that it does not catch or snag. Call them what you will, the design aspects are all utilitarian.

    The genius of the italians is to make the whole dynamic and harmonious, not bland like scandinavian design or compromised like french (think deux chevaux).

    Seriously, they are great pieces of design and the indivual elements very are very finely wrought.

    Taken as a whole, they just come out too large for me every time I try one. Kind of bums me out.
     
  8. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Interesting. Does the movement fill the large case?
     
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    Interesting. Does the movement fill the large case?

    Not in all cases. In the basic, time-only models, a pocket watch movement is used (an ETA ebauche)--this definitely fits. But in some of the upper-middle models that have complications (power reserve, chronograph, etc.), regular sized movements are used, leaving lots of space.
     
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    Well... how do you explain the appeal of a design? Hard task. It's appealing to me because I like the designs of the historic Marina and Radiomir watches.

    As Stevie said, isn't she lovely?

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    TJ, thats too simple, at worst they might be clumsy. they are serious piece of kit, perhaps too much for you to accept.
     
  13. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The original, Rolex made, Panerai watch.
     
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    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Rolex movement, Panerai case and dial design.
     
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    TJ, thats too simple, at worst they might be clumsy. they are serious piece of kit, perhaps too much for you to accept.

    All the ones I've seen, I find ugly.


    Better?
     
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    Rolex movement, Panerai case and dial design.

    It has the general look of military watches of that era, and is certainly a lovely design.
    Do you know when it morphed into the larger scale that is the hallmark of the current Panerais? Was it as soon as they started making their own movements?
     
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    It has the general look of military watches of that era, and is certainly a lovely design.
    Do you know when it morphed into the larger scale that is the hallmark of the current Panerais? Was it as soon as they started making their own movements?


    Panerai only started making their own movements a couple of years ago (and for high-end models); the vintage watches are as big as the modern ones. In fact, the design has stayed remarkably stable.
     
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    Panerai only started making their own movements a couple of years ago (and for high-end models); the vintage watches are as big as the modern ones. In fact, the design has stayed remarkably stable.

    The one I posted doesn't look that large at all.
     
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    The one I posted doesn't look that large at all.

    Well, to be fair, it's not on a wrist. Gdl knows better, I'm sure, but it's also possible some vintage models were slightly smaller. But as far as I know, they were generally the same size as the modern 44mm cases, or even larger.
     
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