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Anybody watch the WH Correspondent's Dinner?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by hopkins_student, May 2, 2005.

  1. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Distinguished Member

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    .DJ's in your life? GWB was the only person I saw with a peak lapel DJ.
     


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    Mike C. Distinguished Member

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    And..... What is with you guys and notch lapel tuxes?
     


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    I think it's a function of limited availability. Considering that most guys shop at Men's Wearhouse-type places or rent tuxedos and that 90-95% of their selection consists of notch lapels, it really is very hard to find a decent peak (and to a lesser extent, shawl) lapelled tuxedo at a reasonable price without a lot of time and effort (for the average man, so think a few hundred $ retail).

    Whether that's a result of an overwhelming market demand for the notch lapel or a result of mass market stores passing cost-cutting measures to the consumer to avoid having to cut seperate lapel designs for tuxedos, I'm not sure.
     


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    LabelKing Stylish Dinosaur

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    And cheap dress sets I would gather.

    With "patent" leather footwear.
     


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    Bradford Current Events Moderator

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    I think it may just be the members of this forum that take issue with notch-lapel tuxedos. As much as some here may dislike it, it is clear that the notch lapel dinner jacket is acceptable at even the highest levels of our society.

    I actually don't see what the big deal is.
     


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    I wonder if any had cuffs.
     


  7. Mike C.

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    Exactly. Just because Flusser doesn't approve of it, doesn't mean it unacceptable. It's too ubiquitous these days.

    Even though I prefer the peaked lapel model, I think a notch lapel version is ok.

    The guys who are opposed to a notch lapel DJ, are the same guys who were all up in arms when someone cut the tails off a DJ years ago.
     


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    I'm not sure about that, though I can understand your point.

    I don't get really exercised over these sorts of things, but for me, the notch lapel ruins the effect of a separation from everyday business dress: in effect, it transforms the dinner jacket into a black suit with silk facings, and some of those DJs lack even proper facings.

    I understand that black tie will go the way of full evening dress in America (and likely rather soon), but I still like the idea of special preparation and presentation for special events, and these events are few enough and far enough between for me that I don't mind the extra attention to detail.
     


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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Actually, a tailcoat minus the tails is not the ancestor of the DJ; the smoking jacket is. Â The tail-less tailcoat is called a "mess jacket." It is standard full dress formal wear in some military services. Â It had a very brief civilian vouge in the mid-1930s, and then crashed and burned never to be seen again. Â And, yes, had I been alive then, I would have opposed it just as vigorously as I now oppose the notch DJ. Â [​IMG]
     


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