Trad interest here seemed to wane after everyone of that persuasion related there undergrad experience at an exclusive Virginia college (plus selected other private Southern colleges) and what a great trad dresser their father/grandfather was. There were also a few converts who saw the light and were saved by Trad. Just where the Mr. Ken Polleck, Esquire, and other true believers are is not clear anymore--we can only assume they are out there caring on the one true faith in world of be-darted, be-pleated, Italian shoes wearing bunch of philistines who will soon be rotting in genhenna. Thank you, someone who knows what it's all about. PS, can I quote that last bit, the bit about the philistines rotting.