Any ezcema suffereres here?

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  1. tiecollector

    tiecollector Senior member

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    Sorry to be blunt, but this is nonsense.
    So is allopathic medicine. Please, tell us the cure doctor. I like how you felt compelled to include "MD" into your screename. Perhaps you're a fan of the show House_MD.
     


  2. javyn

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    I think tie is right. Taking flaxseed oil regularly improved my dry spots immensely. I now take Rexall Salmon Oil now though, b/c flax does not have EPA/DHA. I think next I might try the Nordic Naturals brand...one of the mega EPA versions of it, to justify the extra cost. I am a firm believer in Omega 3s, because I actually notice a difference in the way I feel after taking them on a regular basis. I started taking them mainly for the digestive benefits (have a bit of a bad stomach), but there are so many other good reasons.
     


  3. Aus_MD

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    I think tie is right. Taking flaxseed oil regularly improved my dry spots immensely. I now take Rexall Salmon Oil now though, b/c flax does not have EPA/DHA. I think next I might try the Nordic Naturals brand...one of the mega EPA versions of it, to justify the extra cost. I am a firm believer in Omega 3s, because I actually notice a difference in the way I feel after taking them on a regular basis. I started taking them mainly for the digestive benefits (have a bit of a bad stomach), but there are so many other good reasons.

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
     


  4. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    I don't think so. I think I'll trust my own experience over your simple, smartassed fallacy accusation. Besides, if it really is the fancy latin term you use for the word 'coincidence', then why do all of the benefits I mention having go away after cessation of the supplement?
     


  5. Aus_MD

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    I don't think so. I think I'll trust my own experience over your simple, smartassed fallacy accusation. Besides, if it really is the fancy latin term you use for the word 'coincidence', then why do all of the benefits I mention having go away after cessation of the supplement?

    No Javyn, my comment was neither simple or smartassed. Medicine tries to ground itself in evidence and rationality. There is plenty of evidence that dietary manipulation of lipid does not benefit eczema, but not much evidence(especially of the double blinded, crossover trial type) that supports the contention that it does. So, even if in your case the improvement was due to your diet change you cannot reasonably claim that it will improve most patients' eczema - those studies have been done and have not reached that conclusion. If dietary supplementation was the answer then every dermatologist in the world would be promoting it, and they don't.

    Clearly these oils have no beneficial effect on manners.
     


  6. tiecollector

    tiecollector Senior member

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    I think tie is right. Taking flaxseed oil regularly improved my dry spots immensely. I now take Rexall Salmon Oil now though, b/c flax does not have EPA/DHA. I think next I might try the Nordic Naturals brand...one of the mega EPA versions of it, to justify the extra cost. I am a firm believer in Omega 3s, because I actually notice a difference in the way I feel after taking them on a regular basis. I started taking them mainly for the digestive benefits (have a bit of a bad stomach), but there are so many other good reasons.
    Javyn, flax is good stuff too, if you get the powder its great for fiber, flax has ALA, which is good too, but I think the EPA/DHA is much more beneficial though I think. I take all three kinds of omega 3. It has cured my biggest problems, which were bad dandruff and beginning hairloss. Go for the highest EPA/DHA you can find, make sure it is pure too. I take the capsules, no way I could tolerate swallowing spoonfuls of the stuff. Be sure to keep it refrigerated too. If you want to better increase absorption take a digestive enzyme with Lipase. Anti-oxidants paired with anti-inflammatories to stop inflammation at the cellular level can really make a huge difference.
     


  7. tiecollector

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    No Javyn, my comment was neither simple or smartassed. Medicine tries to ground itself in evidence and rationality. There is plenty of evidence that dietary manipulation of lipid does not benefit eczema, but not much evidence(especially of the double blinded, crossover trial type) that supports the contention that it does. So, even if in your case the improvement was due to your diet change you cannot reasonably claim that it will improve most patients' eczema - those studies have been done and have not reached that conclusion. If dietary supplementation was the answer then every dermatologist in the world would be promoting it, and they don't.

    Clearly these oils have no beneficial effect on manners.


    Yes, perhaps we should all take steroids like Clobetasol_propionate. Won't cause you but mere mild side effects like Cushing's Syndrome. Or you could just take some fish oil and have no side effects.

    The reason doctor's don't recommend supplements is because they think that they are smarter than nature and patients are delusional, brainwashed since medical school by the pharmaceutical industry. Supplements are for those crazy herbalists, right.

    Prevention is the only cure, and if everyone followed good preventative medicine then there wouldn't be as much use for doctors. There would be no drugs to prescribe to get rich off of. Why would pharmaceutical companies not research something like fish oil that they can't patent? I'll let you guess why.

    As far as dermatologists, I have been to several and I knew more than they did. As Seinfeld put it best, dermatologists are only a step up from a Clinique counter. They only know how to cut off growths.

    Studies are done all the time. Eggs are good, no they are bad.. no wait, good, bad, good.... Nobody knows what they are talking about, especially the ones with an agenda like the pharmas and the doctors in bed with them.

    A posse ad esse. Ad hoc scrotum.
     


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    I've had it on my hands on and off for 10+ years. Moisturize regularly, use cortizone to control itching and try to limit the amount of hot water hand washing that you do.
     


  9. Aus_MD

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    Yes, perhaps we should all take steroids like Clobetasol_propionate. Won't cause you but mere mild side effects like Cushing's Syndrome. Or you could just take some fish oil and have no side effects.

    The reason doctor's don't recommend supplements is because they think that they are smarter than nature and patients are delusional, brainwashed since medical school by the pharmaceutical industry. Supplements are for those crazy herbalists, right.

    Prevention is the only cure, and if everyone followed good preventative medicine then there wouldn't be as much use for doctors. There would be no drugs to prescribe to get rich off of. Why would pharmaceutical companies not research something like fish oil that they can't patent? I'll let you guess why.

    As far as dermatologists, I have been to several and I knew more than they did. As Seinfeld put it best, dermatologists are only a step up from a Clinique counter. They only know how to cut off growths.

    Studies are done all the time. Eggs are good, no they are bad.. no wait, good, bad, good.... Nobody knows what they are talking about, especially the ones with an agenda like the pharmas and the doctors in bed with them.

    A posse ad esse. Ad hoc scrotum.



    You seem to be decompensating.
     


  10. tiecollector

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    You seem to be decompensating.
    Not at all, its the eczema medication. Please forgive me.
     


  11. GWHiZiTSPHiL

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    i have eczema in probably one of the worst spots possible. the lip. i just recently broke out there. you can't really see it, if it's there you just a see a redness but the itching sensation is so bad. one time i actually ripped off my lips until they had to grow back and all this clear liquid kept coming out of my lips that would harden into a transparent yellow thing. it would hurt so much for months and i hated to brush my teeth cuz it would burn. other than that i have eczema on my legs but it doesn't really affect me. only in the way that it makes my scars stay longer than it should.
     


  12. javyn

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    Since I have started weight training again, I consume 2g of EPA/DHA combined dialy. That equals a lot of capsules! Talk about salmon burps. And, coming from a family of doctors, I agree with you 100% on the control the pharm industry has on them now. By in large, doctors no longer cure illness, but instead push drugs. Also, having studied the statistical methods used in these trials, I am well aware of how easy it is to falsify findings! Anyway, the Nordic Naturals EPA Xtra has me interested. I might try these next. 1060mg EPA in 2 softgels. Not too shabby! https://www.nordicnaturals.com/direc...mary.asp?ID=74
     


  13. javyn

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    Oh yes, again I'll restate, Rooibos can be great for ezcema/dry spots. Of course, it is non addicting, and relatively inexpensive...so I'm sure the medical community scoffs at this as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos
     


  14. MrRogers

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    You seem to be decompensating.

    Seems to be alot of that going around on this forum.

    Tiecollector, May I ask what it is that you do for a living that makes you more knowledgeable than a medical doctor or puts you in a position to regard someone with a decades worth of formal education as being "One step up from a Clinique counter?"

    Shaman perhaps?

    MrR
     


  15. javyn

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    No, I am the resident Witch Doctor.

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