Antonio Meccariello Shoes

[JustPullHarder]

Hello .....

Considering your remarks on the split toe made by the Japanese, i was little intrigued and I wanted to investigate the cost of a pair of Hiro's split toe derby in shell in Japan......
in order to consider a commission from this shoemaker .
The answer of the producer is very interesting ....
Maybe we should all think a little if the shoemaker generally does what is easier and more comfortable for him or if he tries to satisfy the customer's requests. In this sense,
I am a bit perplexed and disappointed by the answer,
but this is just my personal feeling and I have great respect for the shoemaker.


here you are their answer:

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX

Thank you very much for your inquiry about shoe order.
We are very glad that you have some interests in our shoes.

We are also offering MTO (Made to Order) service besides bespoke.
However that, we need to find your appropriate size and fitting from our base last using fitting trial shoes, even in case of MTO order.

For your reference,
In case of choosing Shell Cordovan leather for the upper, we can not accept the order of L33/Split toe derby.
Cordovan is not appropriate material for the hand stitchings on the vamp of split toe.

Thank you very much for your understanding.
I hope you will visit us when you have an opportunity in the future.

Best regards,
The owner of HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop
Hiroyuki Yanagimachi


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Estoril ’93 2F
2-6-1 Sendagaya Shibuya-ku
Tokyo, Japan 151-0051
HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop

Tel/Fax +81 3 6383 1992
e-mail [email protected]
www.hiroyanagimachi.com/en/
www.facebook.com/HIROYANAGIMACHI

That's not surprising. Very few makers will try split toe with shell. Probably just not worth the risk as the shells may tear.

Also he is pretty clear on his website that he needs an in person fitting for any shoe orders.

Easier or not, it's the way he does business and given the quality of his work I don't it's out of laziness.

 

[bernoulli]

Disappointed that the shoemaker does not want to make you something that they don't think can be done with utmost care? "The customer is always right" is a sentence that should be banned and forgotten. There is no laziness involved. Just common sense. On Hiro's part.

Hello .....

Considering your remarks on the split toe made by the Japanese, i was little intrigued and I wanted to investigate the cost of a pair of Hiro's split toe derby in shell in Japan......
in order to consider a commission from this shoemaker .
The answer of the producer is very interesting ....
Maybe we should all think a little if the shoemaker generally does what is easier and more comfortable for him or if he tries to satisfy the customer's requests. In this sense,
I am a bit perplexed and disappointed by the answer,
but this is just my personal feeling and I have great respect for the shoemaker.


here you are their answer:

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX

Thank you very much for your inquiry about shoe order.
We are very glad that you have some interests in our shoes.

We are also offering MTO (Made to Order) service besides bespoke.
However that, we need to find your appropriate size and fitting from our base last using fitting trial shoes, even in case of MTO order.

For your reference,
In case of choosing Shell Cordovan leather for the upper, we can not accept the order of L33/Split toe derby.
Cordovan is not appropriate material for the hand stitchings on the vamp of split toe.

Thank you very much for your understanding.
I hope you will visit us when you have an opportunity in the future.

Best regards,
The owner of HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop
Hiroyuki Yanagimachi


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Estoril ’93 2F
2-6-1 Sendagaya Shibuya-ku
Tokyo, Japan 151-0051
HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop

Tel/Fax +81 3 6383 1992
e-mail [email protected]
www.hiroyanagimachi.com/en/
www.facebook.com/HIROYANAGIMACHI

 

[AngelK]

Disappointed that the shoemaker does not want to make you something that they don't think can be done with utmost care? "The customer is always right" is a sentence that should be banned and forgotten. There is no laziness involved. Just common sense. On Hiro's part.

You are right, ? honestly I thought it was something simple to do ,instead
i have inquired also other maker around , included Uk
and nobody accepted this one due to the high risk of the process all of them refused

 

[JohnMRobie]

You are right, ? honestly I thought it was something simple to do ,instead
i have inquired also other maker around , included Uk
and nobody accepted this one due to the high risk of the process all of them refused

I think Antonio is one of the only ones willing to try it and is definitely the only one I’ve seen confident enough to offer it as RTW. That being said, for my purposes, shell is like @BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes said - The only reason I would get them is because they’re rare and to be able to show off a bit. For the money, I think I’d rather have Antonio make me something Aurum in one of the amazing vintage leathers he’s able to track down over shell but I’m just not a huge shell guy. I just have to figure out what pattern that will be to get the process started.

 

[JustPullHarder]

Only seen Antonio, ACME and Gaziano (I think Nishant got a couple pairs?)

 

[clee1982]

I think Winson did a pair too, but not as RTW more like "this is a gamble might not work, are you sure you're okay with that" kind of thing

 

[BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes]

Hello .....

Considering your remarks on the split toe made by the Japanese, i was little intrigued and I wanted to investigate the cost of a pair of Hiro's split toe derby in shell in Japan......
in order to consider a commission from this shoemaker .
The answer of the producer is very interesting ....
Maybe we should all think a little if the shoemaker generally does what is easier and more comfortable for him or if he tries to satisfy the customer's requests. In this sense,
I am a bit perplexed and disappointed by the answer,
but this is just my personal feeling and I have great respect for the shoemaker.


here you are their answer:

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX

Thank you very much for your inquiry about shoe order.
We are very glad that you have some interests in our shoes.

We are also offering MTO (Made to Order) service besides bespoke.
However that, we need to find your appropriate size and fitting from our base last using fitting trial shoes, even in case of MTO order.

For your reference,
In case of choosing Shell Cordovan leather for the upper, we can not accept the order of L33/Split toe derby.
Cordovan is not appropriate material for the hand stitchings on the vamp of split toe.

Thank you very much for your understanding.
I hope you will visit us when you have an opportunity in the future.

Best regards,
The owner of HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop
Hiroyuki Yanagimachi


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Estoril ’93 2F
2-6-1 Sendagaya Shibuya-ku
Tokyo, Japan 151-0051
HIRO YANAGIMACHI Workshop

Tel/Fax +81 3 6383 1992
e-mail [email protected]
www.hiroyanagimachi.com/en/
www.facebook.com/HIROYANAGIMACHI

That's not surprising. Very few makers will try split toe with shell. Probably just not worth the risk as the shells may tear.

Also he is pretty clear on his website that he needs an in person fitting for any shoe orders.

Easier or not, it's the way he does business and given the quality of his work I don't it's out of laziness.

Disappointed that the shoemaker does not want to make you something that they don't think can be done with utmost care? "The customer is always right" is a sentence that should be banned and forgotten. There is no laziness involved. Just common sense. On Hiro's part.

Thank you for taking the time to investigate the order process for a pair of Cordovan SpTDs from HY @AngelK. As @bernoulli @JustPullHarder mentioned, I believe Hiro is attempting minimize cost and wastage, as opposed to a reluctance to make something for a customer. I respect that he is able to accept the challenges of working with shell and the associated pitfalls behind it. He rather not waste the customer's time nor his.

Of course, I love & respect that Antonio is willing and able to offer a makeup that only a handful of artisans can produce. As I mentioned previously, AM is one of the finest shoemakers in the world. He offers a reasonable price for a difficult pair to make. Which is why I recommend him highly and often.

Having said that, I believe I stated that I just prefer the aesthetic of HY's SpTD (along with a few others) over the Centurion. @Jmr928 mentioned that I'm not particularly a fan of Cordovan and don't utilize it much. As such, it is too high a price for me to pay for a shoe I would get such little use of.

I did after all state that an important point for me is how much utility I get from a shoe, aside from the aesthetics.

 

[clee1982]

an important point for me is how much utility I get from a shoe, aside from the aesthetics.

I assume utility is measured from # of wear, aren't at you like 125+ shoes now, any utility is like twice a year...?

 

[Wild Strawberry Rabbit]

Only seen Antonio, ACME and Gaziano (I think Nishant got a couple pairs?)

Ascot Shoes had cordovan sptd (Kaan model made by Vass).

Ascot Kaan - Burgundy Shell Cordovan, UK 7, F last

www.ascotshoes.co.uk

 

[clee1982]

was it "proper" split toe?

edit: looks like it has pie crust and all that, good find, is Ascot still doing the whole upper in UK Vass finish thing though?

 

[BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes]

I assume utility is measured from # of wear, aren't at you like 125+ shoes now, any utility is like twice a year...?

Yes sir and when. Cordovan I would wear in the colder months. So, no summer, or later spring, or early fall.

Why only during the winter months? Cordovan leather feels heavy. Makes my feet warm, and I find it stiff.

The cordovan pairs I do have get worn seems like every leap year. In fact, I commissioned a pair recently which will incorporate cordovan. I pretty much know those won't be used often. TBF, those would be $600 cheaper and Bespoke.

 

[JohnMRobie]

Decurion II’s today while I wait for my Decurion I’s to arrive.

Spoiler

Paired with Dunhill pin stripes

 

[clee1982]

So the stretching worked I take?

p.s. I like some of the current Dunhill model, really "clean"

 

[JohnMRobie]

So the stretching worked I take?

p.s. I like some of the current Dunhill model, really "clean"

I got a little more space so progress. Wearing today to figure out if they need another run through the stretcher or if they’re ok.

 

[acapaca]

I think I’d rather have Antonio make me something Aurum in one of the amazing vintage leathers he’s able to track down over shell but I’m just not a huge shell guy.

I too am interested in those special leathers he can source. Here's a question. Are those wonderful vintage leathers all aniline dyed? (Or whatever the proper terminology is.) I'm very attracted to Antonio's wine/oxblood/burgundy offerings, as they have this intangible air about them that evokes in me some sort of romantic notion I must have had at a young age of what a 'proper' man's dress shoe was. Hard to put a finger on this exactly. But anyway, his wine shades are all hand painted, right? For a really special vintage leather, should I be looking at more of a dark brown?