Antonio Meccariello Shoes

[clee1982]

looks like AM has been doing some restocking, this is now available in my size again, hum...

Armiticos 2 chisel 2 last Russian Calf sienna available as Pre order in 18-20 weeks – Meccariello Shoes

 

[mhip]

looks like AM has been doing some restocking, this is now available in my size again, hum...

Armiticos 2 chisel 2 last Russian Calf sienna available as Pre order in 18-20 weeks – Meccariello Shoes

Lol...
I've been staring at those as well.

 

[GeoffreyB]

I'm I the only one who's EG size is 1 full size down from US?? As for gg, 1 full size down is too tight but .5 down is too big for me

I go one full size down from my US size for GG (Deco), EG (82) and AM (Chisel 2 & Soft Square). My foot is very narrow D width in US. I also have flat feet with a low instep.

 

[ZRH1]

probably best to just ask him, I'm sure the answer is always more nuanced than "this is always better", probably application dependent

thanks, I did ask Angela in italian some months ago and the reply was that whilst vintage is good, their new triple calf ones are equally as good. I think therefore she was trying to equate the two, otherwise one would not want anything non-vintage.

Vecchio Drappiere did the same for fabrics, but I guess that here the difference between vintage and new is not as strong as it is in leather quality, right?

 

[jischwar]

I can maybe take 202 one full size down, but there is no way I can take 82 a full size down, though I have no idea if it's the wooden or resin last

Look at the manufacturing number. If it's sub 100k it's most likely on the old wooden lasts. My 82 lasted Galways on old lasts are slightly more snug, but not enough to change sizes.

 

[clee1982]

thanks, I did ask Angela in italian some months ago and the reply was that whilst vintage is good, their new triple calf ones are equally as good. I think therefore she was trying to equate the two, otherwise one would not want anything non-vintage.

Vecchio Drappiere did the same for fabrics, but I guess that here the difference between vintage and new is not as strong as it is in leather quality, right?

I guess, but I’m generally speaking clueless about leather quality, only reliable way (that I have found) to determine leather quality is to have long term wear experience, so kind just trust the maker. I mean if it’s a particular color you like, then go for it.

 

[clee1982]

Look at the manufacturing number. If it's sub 100k it's most likely on the old wooden lasts. My 82 lasted Galways on old lasts are slightly more snug, but not enough to change sizes.

Maybe the 82 you tried on was an old pair made on the wooden last? I find current 82 to be elongated and generous.

sold them already, but it’s from 2009/2010 era? So right around the switch?

 

[JustPullHarder]

Look at the manufacturing number. If it's sub 100k it's most likely on the old wooden lasts. My 82 lasted Galways on old lasts are slightly more snug, but not enough to change sizes.

Are the numbers sequential? I have a pair of shoes that were just MTO in the 50k range, a pair of Galways in the 120k range from last year. I was under the impression they made about 400 pairs a week which is about 20k shoes a year?

 

[jischwar]

sold them already, but it’s from 2009/2010 era? So right around the switch?

Switch was around 2013

Are the numbers sequential? I have a pair of shoes that were just MTO in the 50k range, a pair of Galways in the 120k range from last year. I was under the impression they made about 400 pairs a week which is about 20k shoes a year?

Yes, I believe they are but also include pairs made for Foster&Son, RLPL, etc... 20k a year sounds high, IMO. Don't claim to have intimate knowledge, but just going by the numbers (around 70k in 2010/2011 and now in the 120k area)

 

[JustPullHarder]

Switch was around 2013



Yes, I believe they are but also include pairs made for Foster&Son, RLPL, etc... 20k a year sounds high, IMO. Don't claim to have intimate knowledge, but just going by the numbers (around 70k in 2010/2011 and now in the 120k area)

Hmmm. No idea why my shoes that were just made are in the 55k range then.

This Forbes article says 350 a week

Meet Edward Green: Making The Finest English Shoes, Without Compromise

Edward Green established his shoe-making workshop in Northampton in 1890 with a commitment to ‘making the finest shoes, without compromise.’ Today they stay true to their craft tradition, making shoes, which exemplify quality and quintessentially English style.

www.forbes.com

I've also read 250 through some of their retailers.

 

[jischwar]

Hmmm. No idea why my shoes that were just made are in the 55k range then.

This Forbes article says 350 a week

Meet Edward Green: Making The Finest English Shoes, Without Compromise

Edward Green established his shoe-making workshop in Northampton in 1890 with a commitment to ‘making the finest shoes, without compromise.’ Today they stay true to their craft tradition, making shoes, which exemplify quality and quintessentially English style.

www.forbes.com

I've also read 250 through some of their retailers.

Yes, me neither haha. Like I said, I'm no expert and I've never done an MTO through them so could those be numbered differently to add a sort of exclusivity? Maybe...

 

[JustPullHarder]

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Edward Green's shoemaker story is simple and timeless. For over 120 years, Edward Green has been at the apex of world shoemaking. Read about Edward Green.

www.edwardgreen.com

Hmm they state that they make about 350 pairs a week. I would assume that they would want to minimise this number so it's likely across all 52 weeks meaning somewhere in the order of 15 to 20k pairs a year.

Who knows maybe they're batch numbers.

 

[ZRH1]

I guess, but I’m generally speaking clueless about leather quality, only reliable way (that I have found) to determine leather quality is to have long term wear experience, so kind just trust the maker. I mean if it’s a particular color you like, then go for it.

to be fully frank, I chose the leather mostly due to the vintage. My research has brought to light that leather today is not the leather that used to be, mostly due to several complex reasons. In fabrics, where I got more knowleageable over time, I learned that it is mostly the old machines that are not available anymore and that the new fabrics are spun differently, so it is more of a question of technique and equipment than lack of raw material availability, which instead seems to be the primary driver for lower leather quality nowadays.

What do you think of such statement?

 

[jischwar]

To re-hash the discussion from a couple days ago about the GMTO for the Optio Equitum do we need to move that subject over to the AM GMTO thread? I have the Venator in my cart right now, but my preference would be for the Optio Equitum as I have quite a few Suede/Calf boot combos...

 

[clee1982]

to be fully frank, I chose the leather mostly due to the vintage. My research has brought to light that leather today is not the leather that used to be, mostly due to several complex reasons. In fabrics, where I got more knowleageable over time, I learned that it is mostly the old machines that are not available anymore and that the new fabrics are spun differently, so it is more of a question of technique and equipment than lack of raw material availability, which instead seems to be the primary driver for lower leather quality nowadays.

What do you think of such statement?

In my limited reading I would say it's raw material, so lots people jump on vintage for that reason.