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Antonio Meccariello GMTO Ideas

What colour would you like for this GMTO?

  • Antiqued Grey

    Votes: 13 32.5%
  • Grey museum calf

    Votes: 15 37.5%
  • Chisel 2

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • Soft Square

    Votes: 13 32.5%
  • Argentum Welted

    Votes: 11 27.5%
  • Handwelted

    Votes: 20 50.0%

  • Total voters
    40

clee1982

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can’t edit anymore, let me reply instead
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last: open
leather: vintage baby box (150 euro upcharge), either

1. dark brown

need to ask if this is also "the same" dark brown, leather looks great

OR

2. burgundy/oxblood from the same tannery late 80 early 90s vintage baby box, he has very limited number of this, as in if enough people are interested he has to check if he has enough leather to make this (1 to 2 pair yes, beyond that he has to check)


headcount (given the variation, I'll just put everyone including maybe here)

so if we just put all with interest then we’re maybe at 10, though definitely a lot conflict (oxblood vs brown, chisel vs round can everyone list preference and say if it’s a deal breaker)

edit: and I'm sure most people would prefer px reduction instead of tree though if he propose that I assume the economics won't work out that well (i.e. if the ditching free tree equivalent is save 25 euro then probably not, though I doubt it's that low or he probably just won't offer it, but let me get the headcount straight before I go back to him)

@bernoulli -> strong preference for oxblood, but dark brown if the last guy then ok, prefer price reduction instead of free tree
@Penrod -> oxblood
@Rylsa -> ok with both dark brown and oxblood, prefer chisel 2, but not chisel 2 is not a deal break
@GeoffreyB
@shoes83
@cypi2 -> prefer oxblood, prefer not chisel 2 or mayfair
@Jmr928
@Betta -> round not chisel
@evangel21 -> maybe
@clee1982

then I think rest are out for now (1 definitely out rest no response so assume out by now)
@jischwar
@deez shoes
@WhyUEarly
@beargonefishing
@BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes
@wklq76a
@acapaca
@shirtingfantasy
@woofmang
@Encore
@bsarosi
@JustPullHarder
@DL120
@nishant
@Zaos1
@AWu


most likely can't waive single MTO charge but free last tree instead (but that was pre-vintage leather, so need to check, but if we're far off on headcount then I want to be sure we're somewhat close before I propose something to him)
 
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I also have a strong (very strong) preference for oxblood. My reasoning for accepting a dark brown version is thus: I feel like yours is a noble pursuit and I want to help the community. If there are more than enough people to fund a dark brown GMTO, I will pass. If it hinges on a single person, I will do it.

In addition, I would much rather reduce fees than getting a lasted tree if that is an option at all. Shoe trees are cheap and I don't find any difference between the U$10 cedar shoe trees I can get on taobao and the lasted trees that some makers offer (and yes, I have experimented; my Vass respond the same regardless of which trees are in them).
 

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I was like you but I get trees for aesthetic reason just a nice complete package I suppose
 

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So guys sorry kind back to drawing board, just checked with AM, he did 11 Aurum with the vintage leather, so definitely not enough left for GMTO (and he can’t just re stock for obvious reason).

Would people still be interested with some of the regular stuff you can get on the single MTO on his website?
 

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so some more talking, I think it might be back to live again!!!, not same vintage leather, might be some freudenberg and some Annonay, can I get just a strong preference in dark brown vs. oxblood

edit: then after I got head count decently firm enough AM said he needs 2~3 weeks to see if he can find something (and check for quality)
 
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Woo-hoo, we're getting there!

I'm flexible on the color (prefer oxblood but like that brown a lot).

Would prefer Hawksbill and Soft Square, but ok on Chisel 2.
 

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So guys sorry kind back to drawing board, just checked with AM, he did 11 Aurum with the vintage leather, so definitely not enough left for GMTO (and he can’t just re stock for obvious reason).

Would people still be interested with some of the regular stuff you can get on the single MTO on his website?
@clee1982 thank you so much for your persistence and for following through with this project!
  • Last: Not a deal breaker.
    • Open to any last.
    • By order of preference: hawksbill, round, soft square, chisel 2, mayfair
  • Leather:
    • Not a deal breaker.
    • Open to any leather. Vintage, Freudenberg, Annonay...
    • A standard MTO burgundy/oxblood leather would be fine.
    • Hue is the deal breaker for me in this case: Not brown.
  • Reduced fees vs. free shoe trees:
    • Not a deal breaker.
    • Very strong preference for reduced fees.
  • Color/Hue:
    • Deal breaker.
    • Choice: burgundy/oxblood
 
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Last: not deal breaker preference would prefer hawksbill or softsquare (obviously round isnt going anywhere lol)
Leather: no preference (hmm on second thought, no textured leather, not my cuppa)
Reduced fee: whatever is majority
Color: oxblood preference, but not deal breaker.
 

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I think waived MTO fee isn’t possible on any GMTO currently not just vintage leathers which is why AM offered up lasted trees as a benefit to doing a GMTO but @clee1982 can confirm.

On last I’ve gotta touch base with AM and see if he can adjust my fitting how he recommended - if so I’m open to whatever. If he can’t adjust it I may be out on it.
 

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I am still in as long as the last is the chisel 2 (like the picture) and the color is brown (like the picture or similar). I have enough dress shoes that are burgundy in color. AM makes a great Oxblood no doubt, but that Vintage Roja by G&G fits the bill for me.
 

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Alright, the Decurion II GMTO Is gathering some decent traction.
Let's do a summary here.
@cypi2 @GeoffreyB @cattitude @NJE66 @clee1982 @RishaStyle @Article 26 @hst @GYWFan
Just a couple more guys and we're good to go.

There have been a few mentions preferring something dark.

I will just use this pic as a color reference first.

Now, we need to discuss:

1) Is this colour ok for everyone?

2) Seems like the preference is for the Chisel 2 last, or the Soft Square. What are your preferences?

3) Construction? Most likely Argentum welted, though I will still get a quotation for Argentum handwelted for comparison.

4) Should this be a 2017 or 2018 project?

View attachment 882472
he general preference seems to be for a 2018 project so I think you might be in luck.
 

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