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Antonio Meccariello GMTO Ideas

What colour would you like for this GMTO?

  • Antiqued Grey

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • Grey museum calf

    Votes: 14 37.8%
  • Chisel 2

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • Soft Square

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • Argentum Welted

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Handwelted

    Votes: 19 51.4%

  • Total voters
    37

ThunderMarch

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Alright, the Decurion II GMTO Is gathering some decent traction.
Let's do a summary here.
@cypi2 @GeoffreyB @cattitude @NJE66 @clee1982 @RishaStyle @Article 26 @hst @GYWFan
Just a couple more guys and we're good to go.

There have been a few mentions preferring something dark.

I will just use this pic as a color reference first.

Now, we need to discuss:

1) Is this colour ok for everyone?

2) Seems like the preference is for the Chisel 2 last, or the Soft Square. What are your preferences?

3) Construction? Most likely Argentum welted, though I will still get a quotation for Argentum handwelted for comparison.

4) Should this be a 2017 or 2018 project?

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cattitude

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@ThunderMarch thanks for corralling everyone for this makeup. My answers are below:

1. I’m happy with dark grey museum, maybe not too intense on the mottling if possible.
2. OK with chisel 2 or soft sq.
3. Argentum is good for me, but I agree that it doesn’t hurt to obtain a quote, so I’m OK with the majority decision.
4. Anytime is fine. I’ll sign up when it’s ready.

One question - does Antonio include trees for these GMTOs or do we add that separately?

Looking forward to this pair. Great idea by those who cooked it up.
 

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1. Happy with the color can be a bit darker too
2. prefer chisel 2, though not a deal breaker with soft square
3. prefer AW unless everyone else goes for HW
4. 2018, but if it comes in 2017 will join as well
 

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Alright, the Decurion II GMTO Is gathering some decent traction.
Let's do a summary here.
@cypi2 @GeoffreyB @cattitude @NJE66 @clee1982 @RishaStyle @Article 26 @hst @GYWFan
Just a couple more guys and we're good to go.

There have been a few mentions preferring something dark.

I will just use this pic as a color reference first.
View attachment 882472Antonio calls this dark grey museum.

1) Is everybody happy with this color?

2) There also seems to be a preference for the Chisel 2. Which is fine by me. Everyone ok with this?

3) Construction. I am also fine with Argentum welted. Guess most would prefer this. I can get a quote for handwelted as well, if there is a strong desire for this?

4) Lastly, would you guys want this to be a 2017 or 2018 project?
Thanks very much @ThunderMarch for coordinating.

1) Happy with the proposed colour - looks great!

2) Preference is for Chisel 2.

3) Argentum welted is preferred but can consider handwelting if majority opts for this. Would be interested to hear how much the extra cost is in any event.

4) Preferably a 2018 project but if majority opts for 2017, I’m happy to consider.

Thanks again!
 

usctrojans31

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I might partake in this if 1. funds allow and 2. I can nail my sizing
 

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Alright, the Decurion II GMTO Is gathering some decent traction.
Let's do a summary here.
@cypi2 @GeoffreyB @cattitude @NJE66 @clee1982 @RishaStyle @Article 26 @hst @GYWFan
Just a couple more guys and we're good to go.

There have been a few mentions preferring something dark.

I will just use this pic as a color reference first.
View attachment 882472Antonio calls this dark grey museum.

1) Is everybody happy with this color?

2) There also seems to be a preference for the Chisel 2. Which is fine by me. Everyone ok with this?

3) Construction. I am also fine with Argentum welted. Guess most would prefer this. I can get a quote for handwelted as well, if there is a strong desire for this?

4) Lastly, would you guys want this to be a 2017 or 2018 project?
Thanks ThunderMarch or organizing the GMTO.

1) Color is fine (as long as it is kept a dark color). Black museum preferred but dark grey museum will be fine.

2) As far as the last Chisel 2 will be fine or Soft Square (no preference there)

3) Whatever the majority will rule on construction (although I never had a handwelted construction shoe from him)

4) 2017 or 2018 (either way would be fine with me)
 

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Gentlemen, I have shifted GMTO discussions pertaining to AM GMTO ideas and organisation to this new thread here at the request of the mods.

I shall start the ball rolling by continuing where we had left off with regards to the Decurion II GMTO in grey museum calf.

I will re-tag those who are interested so we can continue discussions here.

@cattitude @clee1982 @GYWFan @GeoffreyB (I have noted all your most recent updates)
@cypi2 @Article 26 @NJE66 @RishaStyle @hst

For the benefit of the anyone else interested, the details are:

Decurion II (Top picture)
Colour: Dark grey museum calf (Bottom picture)
Chisel 2 last
Argentum welted (most likely, but I will get a quotation for handwelted)
May either be a 2017 or 2018 project
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bsmw

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ThunderMarch,

Please count me in, but I will appreciate some sizing advice. How does the Chisel 2 last compared to GG E width of the same size?

Thanks.

Regards,
Bryan
 

ThunderMarch

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ThunderMarch,

Please count me in, but I will appreciate some sizing advice. How does the Chisel 2 last compared to GG E width of the same size?

Thanks.

Regards,
Bryan
Dear Bryan
That's great, and glad to have you aboard.
Generally, most folks fit well into AM's lasts in the same size as their G&G lasts in regular width.
The Chisel 2 is also more generous than the Soft Square and Hawksbill so I feel taking your GG size is safe.
 

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Gentlemen, I have shifted GMTO discussions pertaining to AM GMTO ideas and organisation to this new thread here at the request of the mods.

I shall start the ball rolling by continuing where we had left off with regards to the Decurion II GMTO in grey museum calf.

I will re-tag those who are interested so we can continue discussions here.

@cattitude @clee1982 @GYWFan @GeoffreyB (I have noted all your most recent updates)
@cypi2 @Article 26 @NJE66 @RishaStyle @hst

For the benefit of the anyone else interested, the details are:

Decurion II (Top picture)
Colour: Dark grey museum calf (Bottom picture)
Chisel 2 last
Argentum welted (most likely, but I will get a quotation for handwelted)
May either be a 2017 or 2018 project
View attachment 882560
View attachment 882557
Rather nice!

Any timeline is fine with me.
 

cypi2

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Gentlemen, I have shifted GMTO discussions pertaining to AM GMTO ideas and organisation to this new thread here at the request of the mods.

I shall start the ball rolling by continuing where we had left off with regards to the Decurion II GMTO in grey museum calf.

I will re-tag those who are interested so we can continue discussions here.

@cattitude @clee1982 @GYWFan @GeoffreyB (I have noted all your most recent updates)
@cypi2 @Article 26 @NJE66 @RishaStyle @hst

For the benefit of the anyone else interested, the details are:

Decurion II (Top picture)
Colour: Dark grey museum calf (Bottom picture)
Chisel 2 last
Argentum welted (most likely, but I will get a quotation for handwelted)
May either be a 2017 or 2018 project
View attachment 882560
View attachment 882557
As always, many many thanks for organizing this GMTO @ThunderMarch !

1. The color is fine with me
2. The Chisel 2 last is fine with me, but, I would also be OK with other lasts as well
3. The Argentum construction is completely fine with me, but, I would consider handwelted if the majority requested it
5. Either 2017 or 2018 will work for me
 

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@cattitude
Just one point. I did note your input with regards to the mottling.
In many of AM's shoes, the final colour / patination is done by hand, sometimes on a calf already close to the final desired colour, and sometimes on crust.

In most / all cases, he has a good eye for colour, and a somewhat adventurous streak.
I have found that on his museum calf offerings (and you are right), that the mottling is indeed fairly pronounced, with rather sharp demarcations between light and dark areas. This gives rise to a rather striking effect, from close up.

I am not sure though, how to communicate with him with regards to decreasing this mottling (his first language is not English) but I can try.

One option though (but I do not have a picture of this), is that we can try asking for an "antiqued" dark grey? If some degree of colour gradation / variation is desired. '

I do find that on shoes that he calls "antiqued", there isn't so much of any mottling, but just subtle changes in intensity of colour from one part to another.
 

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I actually prefer antiqued dark gray, but will take gray museum if that's the preference of the majority.
 

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