Anthony Delos - 2012

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by the.chikor, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Romain

    Romain Senior member

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    I just saw the Suzukis. While made for the same feet, the toe boxes seems quite different to me :

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    Anyway, it is just a matter of style, and as I said, this one is unusually seen on Delos' shoes (of course I am not saying they are ugly, not at all :rolleyes: )
     


  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    You're not wrong but not entirely right either.

    If a person has, let's say two or three toes that are all the same length, a narrower toe box is out of the question without extending the length of the shoe.

    And a broad forepart like that on both the pairs (yes the Suzuki's were made for chikor and can be found in another current thread) often indicates that the toes will be splayed wider, relatively speaking, than other feet. The whole foot tends to roughly resemble a triangle with the apex at the heel...the foot tends to get wider the further forward from the heel, IOW.

    In such cases, the bespoke maker will...must...accommodate the foot first.
     
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  3. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    One's round, one's "square-ish". Otherwise they are near-as-nevermind the same width.
     


  4. bengal-stripe

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    I think, the toe boxes are the same width, but not the same height towards the end.

    It's a bit difficult to see, as there are no profile shots, but the Suzuki toe box looks to me much shallower. Over a distance of maybe 1 1/2" before the tip, Suzuki's toe box tapers down in height consistently to very shallow while Delos seems to have kept the same height throughout, falling off at the furthest tip like the cliffs of Dover. I believe that is what Romain referred to. A profile shot, toe-to-toe might clarify that.
     


  5. DWFII

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    No question about it, you're right. I see the same thing.

    But that's pretty typical of chisel toes as opposed to round toes--it's almost a forced aesthetic. Round toes need to be, well, "round" in more than just one dimension to look right. I suspect that if Suzuki made a round toe it would come a lot closer to looking like the Delos. And the reverse is true, as well.
     


  6. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Boxercise Toughguy

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    This and the Suzuki thread suck. Like buying a Ferrari and posting two photos of the badge and no other pertinent info.
     


  7. fritzl

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    the.chikor described everything in his other threads. fwiw, he had the most expensive journey known to mankind on sf. finally with a happy end.
     
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  8. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Boxercise Toughguy

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    Well Gerd I can't and don't read every thread, brohammer. Ill leave tbat to those not new to the shoe game. Perhaps he should have linked to his older threads, as I'm not the only one interested in more info.
     


  9. fritzl

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    no problem. i agree, it was easier to research this in the old system
     
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  10. the.chikor

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  11. sully

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    Can anyone see a difference in the toe medallion on the Suzuki shoes ?
     


  12. fritzl

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    now, you mention it. keeding. both are great, imo. i prefer the conservative style of the AD, though.
     


  13. sully

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    It looks to me that the distance between the end of the punching to the welt is not the same on the suzuki shoes,that in my opinion is not perfection that many think he produces.
     


  14. DWFII

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    I see that too...it's significant. And I particularly don't like the medallion on the left shoe being so close to the welt. I wouldn't like it even if both were perfectly matched but that close to the welt.

    As a bespoke shoe there may be some reason we don't know about why this would be so....one foot longer than the other, for instance. But if the maker knows that there is a significant discrepancy between the feet, he can...maybe should...make a separate pattern for each shoe/last.
     
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  15. sully

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    I dont have a problem with it being close on one shoe,that is personal preference I suppose. But they should match and a bespoke maker should get details like that right, different size feet can be matched in the pattern as I understand it. I cannot believe it is anything but a mistake it should not have got past quality control
     


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