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Another MTM Critique

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Abecon, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Abecon

    Abecon Member

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    Hi, I would appreciate critiques on my mtm shirt. I found it impossible to find a shirt with a 15.5 neck and a mid section that didn't look like a parachute, especially above the pants on the back.
    This is after 3 washes. Also, how is the yoke? I have no idea where it is supposed to end.
    Thanks in advance!

    Before Next Shirt
    1 Collar 15.50 15.70
    2 Half Chest 19.50 20.00
    3 Half Waist 17.50 17.75
    4 Half Hip 18.00 18.50
    5 Left Sleeve Length 25.00 25.50
    Right Sleeve Length 25.25 25.75
    6 Half Bicept 7.75 7.75
    7 Left Cuffs 7.50 8.00
    Right Cuffs 7.50 8.00
    8 Yoke 17.25 17.50
    9 Shoulder (O) 0.00
    10 Shirt Length 30.00 32.00
    11 Amrhole (O) 9.50 10.00
    12 Short Sleeve Length (O) 0.00 0.00

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  2. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Ridiculous post.

    Most folk maange to post photographs we can see. You offer URLs which do not work - and just for a shirt of unknown origin.

    if this is the best you can offer for a first post then....
     
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  3. aguydude

    aguydude Senior member

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    works for me..

    On inspection. Looks pretty good for a 1st shirt. Arms might be a tad short, but that's nitpicking.
     
  4. black_umbrella

    black_umbrella Senior member

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    The shirt scars are unfortunate....

    Might add some to the hips, as they are very tight right now. Probably could add about a half inch to the sleeves as well. The cuff length looks disproportionate to me.

    Seriously though, use the goddamn image button on the editor. It's right next to the paperclip. Use the "url" option.
     
  5. a tailor

    a tailor Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    why was it altered???????
     
  6. Abecon

    Abecon Member

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    balck unbrealla- I assume shirt scars are the creases on the elbow? As well, my apology for the urls, the photos were taking forever to load so I didnt try the url method for photos. Fixed though.

    a tailor- I meant 'altered' to mean for my next shirt. I changed it to 'next shirt' to try and avoid the confusion.
     
  7. black_umbrella

    black_umbrella Senior member

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    Nope, I mean the darts in the back. Always make it look like you re-purposed a woman's blouse. Hate them, but some people don't. Also, the darts seem to be failing in their task of taking in the back. You might try bringing in the waist measurement, that might fix it.
     
  8. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    the whole shirt just looks uncomfortably tight.
    the yoke is two narrow, unless the look of a high yoke, which brings up
    the armhole and removes fullness in the upper chest.
    of course you need that to move ,
    the hips are way too tight
    does not allow the shirt to drop properly into your pants.

    your posture is not great.
    YOur shoulders point too far forward.
    that is causing some of the breaking from the neck .

    there is an alteraition to the pattern for this,but doubtrful on a made to measure program

    cuffs are very tight. you will blow out the elbow before you know it
     
  9. Abecon

    Abecon Member

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    Black umbrella and Shirtmaven, I appreciate the comments.
    So from the values I listed above for my next shirt I should change my yoke to 18.5, and half waist to 18? The reason I had the darts and the narrow waist measurement was to try and get rid of some of the extra fabric on my lower back. Anything I can do about the pattern or posture problem? Students budget so price is a factor.

    Thanks
     
  10. Threadbearer

    Threadbearer Senior member

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    Or it's possible that the cuffs are too tight, which is keeping them from falling to their proper length. Personally, I like my shirts to fit very close to my body, and so this looks really good to me aside from the tight cuffs.

    Who made it, and how many times has it been washed?
     
  11. Needsmoreshoes

    Needsmoreshoes Senior member

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    I'd say pretty good, I like mine a little slimmer but overall that's a good 1st shirt.

    Where's it from?

    Ignore GBR - some people spend their time wanking themselves off over their all encompassing style knowledge. It's your fist post - what more was he expecting.
     
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  12. Abecon

    Abecon Member

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    The cuffs are too tight for sure. I will be fixing that. I ordered it from Modern tailor. It has been washed 2 times on hot and dried on max, just for the purpose of seeing how much it would shrink. Should the yoke be bigger or not?
     
  13. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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    Welcome to Styleforum Abecon. You ran the gauntlet well.
    Shirt looks good enough.
     
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    newintown23 Senior member

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    There goes GBR again talking his smack. Do you just go around to different post and leave nasty comments to everyone? Didn't your mother ever teach you anything? If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. I will make a statement for all of the new members on this forum. Your comments are unappreciated. Keep them to yourself and go back to being a miserable person. Thanks
     
  15. newintown23

    newintown23 Senior member

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    To the OP, I went through this myself reciently. Your better off measuring a shirt that fits you well and making adjustments off of that, rather than your body IMO.
     
  16. Threadbearer

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    Good man.



    I say no, unless you feel too much pulling at the shoulders when you reach forward as if to hug someone. As long as it's not inhibiting your range of motion too much, then this is a matter of personal preference. Personally, I think a narrowish yoke makes the wearer look muscular and the shirt look trim and well-tailored. But there are many here who will disagree.
     
  17. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    do not wash your shirt in hot and then put it in a hot dryer.

    i would bet that the cuffs on your shirt shrunk at least 1/2" or more

    your posture can be adjusted. I am not a physical therapist or a yoga instructor
    you need to pullyour shoulders back

    the main changes
    are add to the yoke
    the chest
    you can leave the waist alone
    but add to the hip
     
  18. wqvong

    wqvong Senior member

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    I am curious, why would changing the Yoke make it more comfortable? Increasing the length.

    Thanks
     
  19. Abecon

    Abecon Member

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    I washed them like that to realize the most they would likely ever shrink. I realize this throws off the measurements a little, but I would rather have measurements be a little too big, than a little too small. But maybe I shouldn't have gone to that extreme. As for my posture, maybe it is the pictures or something, but they look pretty normal in real life...I think. Other than that, thanks for all the comments. I will be adding a bit to the yoke, make the cuffs larger, wont be adding much to the sleeve because the yoke and cuff, and adding about half an inch on my chest and hip.

    Last question. Darts- Yes or No?

    This forum is awesome. Thanks for the help.
     
  20. lostron

    lostron Senior member

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    overall the fit is good but I think a little too tight though the chest, shoulders, and waist. However, for a mtm shirt, it should be better. I think there might a lot of rtw shirt that will fit you well.. Try some of the UK or European brands.
     

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