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Another "is this a Grenadine tie?" thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I've never seen a repp grenadine tie. Is this garza fina or some other weave type?

    You can see the wood surface underneath because it's an unlined tie.

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    Confirmed garza fina example:

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  2. skefferz

    skefferz Senior Member

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    Maybe you have.
     
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  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I've added a picture of confirmed example of Garza fina (off white color).

    The "holes" in the weave on the off-white tie are arranged differently than on my tie.


    I usually think of "knit" ties as having larger diameter yarn and square ends. And looser weaves.

    Is this just some kind of "gauze"/jacquard that is somewhat reminiscent of Garza Fina when viewed from afar?
     
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  4. skefferz

    skefferz Senior Member

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    Your striped tie could be a grenadine. (All my grenadines are lined, so I can't easily see through the weave.) But your second one doesn't look like one--too open a weave. These are closeups of Sam Hober Grenadine Garza Fina Solid Ties: [​IMG];[​IMG] These are closeups of Sam Hober Grenadine Garza Grossa Solid Ties: [​IMG];[​IMG] Just get some grenadine swatches from Sam Hober.
     
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  5. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    The off-white tie comes from the Sam Hober website. It is definitely Garza Fina.

    http://www.samhober.com/grenadinesilks/grenadine.htm
     
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  7. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I love that tie. Can you give me deets on it? If you are selling it, PM me. :)
     


  8. bobbers

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    Could someone help me figure out if this is a grenadine tie? Thanks.

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  9. Sam Hober

    Sam Hober Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    Bobbers,


    The silk in your photos are not grenadines.
     
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    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Correct, but it is lovely :)
     


  11. bobbers

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    thanks for the confirmation.

    i do like the surface interest though. as of last weekend there was one left ($78 before discounts) at jersey gardens neiman marcus last call.
     


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    Would this be considered a grenadine?

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    Not sure what to make of this vintage "Grenadine" I just picked up and thought I'd ask the tie experts of SF. Also, I am unsure of the posting etiquette so I have placed the question in this thread. Would it be better to post somewhere else or make a new thread? Anyways, on to the tie!

    The label on the back says Son & Man "Arbiter" via Condotti, '84 - Roma. Untipped, unlined, purposely hand-rolled edge on only one side (makes for a very distinct asymmetrical look!), and most importantly, the "grenadine" alternates in a square pattern throughout the tie. Because of this pattern, the transparency of the tie also has a distinct look (see pic). There is a button(?) on the back of the tie - what are these for? It says "Seta caricata" on one side (which I believe refers to partially "cooked" silk to strengthen fibers) and has something like a leaf or fruit with a chain across it on the other side.

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    I'm in the process of restoring the condition on the tie. Does anyone have any more information they could share about the tie? Many thanks!
     
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