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Another Election Night Commentary...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by armscye, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. armscye

    armscye Senior member

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    I watched three channels simultaneously, and thought the coverage differential was fascinating, and the clothes interesting.

    Most embarrassing moment: CNN refusing to call Ohio with 98% of the returns in, after having called Pennsylvania with 57% of the returns in and NH with less than 80% of the returns in. Blitzer defensively commented that "it's not ideology that makes us reluctant to call this state..." No, just systemic denial and stunned incredulity.

    Second most embarrassing moment: MSNBC, still talking about Jim Bunning being on the cusp of losing, AFTER his opponent announced that he was en route to concede.

    Other comments:

    FNC's Barone was dazzling in his knowledge, clearly the brightest star of the election coverage. Surprisingly well dressed, he retucked his huge pocket foulard as the night went on, but also became more harried-looking as he crunched numbers hour after hour.

    Brit Hume was very nicely dressed in a mix of Ivy League and updated Continental, with enough flair to be noticeable. His stewardship of the FNC commentary was masterful, though every break for commercials seemed to catch him by surprise, and he seemed not to know which states had been called until the graphics came up. Neither Barnes nor Kondracke has the least bit of sartorial flair, but at least they had something to say.

    CNN's Larry King was embarrassingly addled or senile, literally oblivious to what was going on around him, and unable to add up simple numbers or follow the commentary of the other presenters. Time to retire. The usual mis-sized suspenders.

    Juan Williams seemed suprisingingly (for him) evenhanded. My problem with his suits is that they are always incredibly overpadded, with convex linebacker shoulders that don't move when he does.

    Blitzer, Anderson, and Brown at CNN seemed their usual anonymously dressed selves. Brown was as dour as I've ever seen him (which is saying a lot).

    I had to laugh out loud at Judy Woodruff's facial expression (on the verge of tears), since at about 7 Laura Ingraham of WABC announced on her show "watch Judy Woodruff go pale and then change to a black mourning dress as Bush's wins come in." She did exactly that, though she kept her festive red dress on as her expression grew more woeful. By the end of the night she had aged ten years.

    MSNBC was a real eyefest. James Carville could make Kiton look like JC Prenney sweats, so he was perhaps wise to stick to his trademarked cheap sportcoat, buttondown shirt, and jeans. He was matched by Chris Matthews, whose spittle appeared to ruin several neckties as the evening wore on. Tucker Carlson lived up to his central casting role as the trustafarian poor little rich kid and pet conservative-- is that a Tripp or a Ben Silver bowtie he was wearing? Paul Begala was surprisingly elegant in a dark suit, and should now appear in dictionary illustrations of the phrase "limousine liberal."

    Between the three channels, I felt well informed, and reasonably satisfied that I had enough accurate information to draw my own conclusions. Only in America.
     
  2. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    Shhhhhh. You were praising commentators at Fox and damning those at their peers. This is a nest of liberals mate, be careful. This place is just like GQ...they can inject anti-Bush venom in a conversation about socks.

    That said, CNN's coverage was pretty sad. They also declared Michigan with 83 per cent of the precents reporting when Ohio was at 99 per cent.

    I didn't find anyone to be particularly well dressed. Some of the people you named make some pretty big coin so it's not like they couldn't afford decent suits. What's wrong with Tom Brokaw's tie knots? They always seem bad.
     
  3. AlanC

    AlanC Minister of Trad

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    armsyce, accurate and amusing commentary. Hume is a sartorial beacon among the talking heads, IMO.

    gorge, I made a point of looking at Brokaw's tie last night after having seen your earlier comment, but saw nothing wrong with it. Good shape and dimple. Could you describe the problem?
     
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    gorgekko Senior member

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    His knot last night seemed like he had tied it with his hands made into a fist. Ungainly and the dimple was, to be polite, less than stellar.
     
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    Brian SD Moderator

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    [​IMG] Ad hominem should be avoided, especially when it's against a "nest" of men, not just one.
     
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    Who cares what Carville was wearing. If you actually listened, it was amazing to hear him not try to spin the results.

    If you want to criticize a network, don't forget the shennanigans FOX pulled 4 years ago when they called Bush the winner even though it was really too close to call. This made Gore look like he lost, and thus a sore loser when he challenged the results. I believe the person in charge, who decided to make this call, was somehow related to Bush or something like that.
     
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    AlanC Minister of Trad

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    Well, you're assuming a Clintonite wanted Kerry to win. Just a thought.
     
  8. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    I stand by what I said. I have read a number of threads that have nothing to do with politics injected with anti-Bush and/or anti-conservative commentary. It's tiring and ungentlemanly. Of course, when the proprietor engages in it and thereby tacitly endoses such behavior, it's not surprising that others are engaging in it as well.
     
  9. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    I usually mean it in good fun, in threads in this section. I took your earlier post in this topic as a joke, and I hoped it would be obvious and I wouldn't need to get dragged into this. I suppose I might have taken more offense if I actually were a liberal, though.

    Everyone's been on edge the last few days (months), and I hope we can all get back to what we're here for as soon as possible. As for me, I managed to get through the day without actually completing the act of biting someone's head clean off, so I am glad for that and will try to maintain my composure and I hope my fellow "liberal" nest dwellers can do the same.

    Anyway, I find it amazing how much detail you all can remember about the clothing worn by various anchors, while still remembering what they actually had to say. The only political person's clothing I ever took note of was George Stephanopoulos (sp?), whose French cuffs I noted must be custom made, based on their shape and size. This was during the Clinton years, and in the 20 seconds or so I saw him last night I didn't get a good shot to see if he's keeping it up.
     
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    Carville's spin became rueful, folksy acquiescence at about 7PM, I suspect because he is enough of a savvy operator to know what the incoming data meant. For all of his avuncular "well, it just ain't our night", he offered nothing that addressed the obvious central fact: Americans weren't bitin' on what the Democratic party was puttin' on the hook. He truly believes that Kerry was tactically outmaneuvered, not culturally out of touch.

    When your advocates are P. Diddy, Jon Bongiovi, and Bruce Springsteen, while the other guy is walking around with Norman Schwartzkopf and Rudy Giuliani, there is a true cultural disconnect. Those Columbus suburban soccer moms looked at that and said "I may be a shallow stepford wife here, Doris, but I can't see Springsteen's 12-string protecting little Timmy's school from becoming the next Beslan quite as effectively as Stormin Norman's Third Infantry. Plus, I was kinda hopin' the lad would not be taking civics classes that teach him how to plan a gay marriage."

    The best sartorial line was Mike Barnicle's the next morning. Imus asked him if he knew whether Kerry had accepted the inevitable, and he replied "well, I was up near John's Beacon Hill townhouse, and I saw a barn coat, red sox ballcap, and JC Penney shoes come flying out the door, so I think we'll see a concession later today."
     
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    And how exactly is this thread different, except that it is going the other direction?
     
  12. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    I believe it is what the mainstream media would call balance. One thread that is meant as a sop to balance 100 others [​IMG] People, let's confine ourselves to the satorial matters related to election night reporting.
     
  13. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Hume always has great silk pocket squares. Brokaw has the best fitting suits. Rather's shirts have the best fitting collars. Brian Williams and Stone Phillips look pretty good. Almost everyone else in the news business dresses blandly or downright awfully.
     

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