And I was not entirely saying that, as our discussion as developed from the fact that the guy spend some money for AM hand product and did not receive it and there were comments of posters saying that no one seems to know her in Naples, you then started pointing out at handwork and the discussion evolved in that sense. The focus has probably shifted wrongly on the amount of handwork per Euro (still a factor)... You are the one fantasising too much about bespoke, and in particular about Neapolitan. Someone from a Japanese media seems to have discovered her some time ago, media press has then bounced up in English and the myth was born. There are plenty of similarly if not better skilled shirt makers in Naples that do not charge nowhere as much, hand details or not. Going back to one of the OP points, Neapolitans most times do not get tourist prices, not because they do not want to get connected but because the locals have many more choice to get shirts or suits done and therefore have dealing power if they seller want to maintain sustainable business. So pointing out that there are other firms that can do at least an equally good job at better prices, coming from local knowledge, is not deal hunting and getting less of product, this is a fact. The stylistic advice that Mariano offers clients (e.g. button 0.5 cm up or down) would not change the way the coat is cut or put together, and although you think differently, the coats Rubinacci has offered though the years, at least the 80's and 90's has changed slightly as per cutters that have worked there over time. In fact clients have often left particular tailoring house/brands to follow their cutter once set up on their own. To me it looks almost like you are trying to justify/convince everyone that because you paid more at those places, it must be better, and I, and many Neapolitan born and bred bespoke clients, would beg to differ.