• Hi, I'm the owner and main administrator of Styleforum. If you find the forum useful and fun, please help support it by buying through the posted links on the forum. Our main, very popular sales thread, where the latest and best sales are listed, are posted HERE

    Purchases made through some of our links earns a commission for the forum and allows us to do the work of maintaining and improving it. Finally, thanks for being a part of this community. We realize that there are many choices today on the internet, and we have all of you to thank for making Styleforum the foremost destination for discussions of menswear and fashion.
  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

Andre 3000, esquire's best dressed for '04

Keith T

TWAT Master.
Joined
Apr 17, 2004
Messages
1,727
Reaction score
1,221
Finally got around to looking through the "Best Dressed Men" issue, and they have some pretty safe choices, IMO, and also some more...interesting choices.  Your Jude Laws, your Kofi Annans, your Tom Fords, pretty hard to quibble with.  

Andre 3000 topping the list seems a bit of a stretch, but I do admire the way his personality seems to come through his threads.  He's hip-hop without the oversize athletic jerseys and the overt bling.  His clothes just seem kind of "happy" to me, if that makes sense, and he comes across in most interviews and Outkast videos that I have seen as a really happy guy.  Jeez that sounds corny, but I don't know how else to put it.  So many other artists try to scowl, or come across as so "hard", and I get the vibe from him that he just likes making music, he really enjoys himself.  

What I don't really get is the extreme over-the-topness of his style.  If he could tone it down by just 10% even, I think he could get an even better result.  I know it's got to be big to be seen on stage, and certainly he has this persona that he has created (as said, a likeable one for me), and that is his way of standing out.  You gotta take a guy with a number as part of his name with a grain of salt, I guess.  But man, some of the red carpet and other ensembles I've seen him in...well...they seem too much even for Andre.  

So has anybody else seen this issue?  Comments on Andre (I believe he's been discussed here before) or any of the other selections?
 

LA Guy

Opposite Santa
Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 8, 2002
Messages
49,241
Reaction score
24,873

aybojs

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2002
Messages
957
Reaction score
2
I like Andre 3000 because he comes across as a fun, spirited guy, and because his music is generally enjoyable and doesn't take itself too seriously. I feel the same way about his clothing preferences: he likes to dress with color and flair, which is a refreshing contrast to boring runway drones who only dress in black, white, and the occasional muted earthtone. He's also done a really nice job of working preppy staples like vests with dressy shirt and tie combinations.

However, while Andre looks great in his own right, I wouldn't put him on a best-dressed list. The main reason is he able to pull off his outfits and look good is his matching personality and creative ability. I dislike all the hype in fashion magazines over his wardrobe because I fear it will lead to a wave of lame attempts from both designers and the average person to rip off his clothes in the deluded notion that they can look great in Andre's outfits without being Andre himself. Andre is very, very stylish, but not someone who should be on a best-dressed list. The latter to me describes someone who just looks sharp and put together; someone whom anyone would do well to emulate sartorially. Since so much of Andre's fashion success is personality driven, that would not describe him.
 

LA Guy

Opposite Santa
Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 8, 2002
Messages
49,241
Reaction score
24,873

faustian bargain

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2004
Messages
2,523
Reaction score
2
you are both correct.

books like flusser's (i say 'like' because i don't have the book and i haven't read it) - 'rule' books - start from the presumption that the reader is a man in his own right, that he has a personality and confidence. those books exist so that men don't have to reinvent the wheel when educating themselves about style.

there is a distinction between style and ideosyncracy; aybojs' point was about that. andre3000's ideosyncratic, personal style is something that works for him and him only. cary grant and steve mcqueen's styles are much less ideosyncratic, and work for a much broader range of man. in fact i would say that they allow the man's personality to shine through, as opposed to being potentially overshadowed by flamboyant clothing.

call it conformity if you like, but every picture has a frame. it'd better be a damn good picture if you're going to put an attention-grabbing frame around it.

/andrew - thinks he should add a number to his name too...'andrew-pi'??
 

Phil

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2003
Messages
596
Reaction score
1
i look at it the other way - the better the picture, the more subtle the frame. you dont want a tacky loud frame around the mona lisa, but you might around a velvet elvis.
 

faustian bargain

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2004
Messages
2,523
Reaction score
2
wow, a flower AND a pocket square.

van gogh should've done that with his ear.

and berlusconi could've used that eyepatch a few days ago, for sure. ARRR.
 

LabelKing

Stylish Dinosaur
Joined
May 24, 2002
Messages
25,743
Reaction score
254
wow, a flower AND a pocket square. van gogh should've done that with his ear. and berlusconi could've used that eyepatch a few days ago, for sure. ARRR.
He was a complete dandy. With a walking stick always. When he was about 6 he used to carry a sterling silver walking stick as well. That item on the eyepatch is actually a diamond eyeshaped watch designed by Dali himself.
Dali at Studio 54 with friend.
 

The Devil's Hands

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2006
Messages
134
Reaction score
0
I think he's got more style in his little finger than just about everyone I've ever seen on TV.
 

Artisan Fan

Suitsupply-sider
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
32,422
Reaction score
264
I once took a flight from London to Atlanta on Delta and sat next to Dre in first class. He was dressed (no lie) just like Jimi Hendrix and looked perfectly like him. He said he was out late and we spent a good while talking about jazz music. He is a very nice man.
 

FLMountainMan

White Hispanic
Joined
Aug 18, 2006
Messages
14,021
Reaction score
2,209
Wow, a thread revised after two years! I think his style is great, too.
 

trogdor

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2005
Messages
521
Reaction score
0
I suppose he's stylish in the sense that he looks like he didn't put on what he's wearing by accident or out of habit (i.e., he looks like he thinks about clothes). But then again, in the photo above, he just looks eccentric -- any idiot could cobble together a few mis-matching and loud patterns such that people would say "ooh look at you," but that's not necessarily an indicator of style. Perhaps the above picture is not really representative -- I've seen Andre3000 looking much sharper and less chaotic in other pictures. Love the David Brent quotation, FLMM!
 

LARon

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Messages
1,188
Reaction score
2
His style is, indeed, idiosyncratic; and there are times when he knocks the cover off the ball. On the other hand, however, because his style is uniquely his own -- i.e., is not universal, nor transferable -- he should not be included on a list of "best dressed." His style is not one everyone can aspire (or relate) to, and therefore should not be held up as an example of "how to do it right," which is more directed at the mainstream.

Just my two cents.
 

The Devil's Hands

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2006
Messages
134
Reaction score
0
Originally Posted by LARon
because his style is uniquely his own -- i.e., is not universal, nor transferable -- he should not be included on a list of "best dressed."

This speaks to what you think good dress is. I think the whole point of clothing, after protecting you from the elements, is to express who you are without saying a word. If you do that well (as in, your outfits look good), then you are well-dressed.

In that respect, I wholeheartedly agree with Andre's choices, much moreso than his contemporaries:

Outkast:Andre3000's outfits::puff Daddy:Sean 'diddy' Combs's outfits.
 

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by

Featured Sponsor

Favorite knitwear under jackets/sport coats

  • Crewneck sweater

  • Turtleneck sweater

  • Long-sleeve polo

  • Vest

  • I don't like knitwear worn with jackets/sport coats


Results are only viewable after voting.

Related Threads

Forum statistics

Threads
454,979
Messages
9,856,559
Members
205,560
Latest member
gtw33
Top