I just received my Ande Whall Caribou's (similar cut to their old Cougar's) today but turns out I need to size down. Since Ande doesn't have returns, I'm listing it here. These are size 31 but the waist actually measures 32". These are brand spankin' new. You also save on shipping cost ($38 from AW). Price - $220 shipped **SOLD** Price dropped. Need to get rid of these ASAP so that I can buy the right size! Already losing money on this. New from AW is 245 + 38 = $283, so you are saving a LOT of money here.