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An experiment in beauty

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by A Y, Apr 9, 2007.

  1. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    How many people would recognize world-class music making in the subway? The Washington Post plants Joshua Bell as a street musician near a Metro station to see what happens.

     
  2. LabelKing

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    Should the title be changed to "Pearls before Swine"?
     
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    Should the title be changed to "Pearls before Swine"?
    funny. *EDIT* just read the whole article. very, very interesting read. thanks andre.
     
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    This article brings me very nearly to tears...to think that people could just ignore such beautiful music.
     
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    Renault78law Senior member

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    great article, thanks.

    I thought this part was insightful:
     
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    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Read that yesterday, very good article.
     
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    great article. thanks for the link AY.

    -Jeff
     
  8. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    This article brings me very nearly to tears...to think that people could just ignore such beautiful music.

    This surprisingly is not an uncommon reaction according to the author. There's a link on that page that links to a discussion about the article and how they went about interviewing people that talks more about this:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040601228.html

    --Andre
     
  9. LabelKing

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    I have noticed a lot of people--young and old--who walk around with iPod earphones in their ears.
     
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    High art or not, the music is absolutely beautiful. Not everyone may have a few minutes to spend listening to it, but not to bother even slowing down? Our daily lives are becoming ritualistic acts of suffering, which are to be sped up and robotized. No thinking, no feeling, no enjoying...just waiting for the commute/work/lunch/life to pass. If we are unwilling to stop the routine for one minute in order to enjoy moving and plainly virtuosic music, we are certainly unwilling to stop for longer to actually participate in creation of something beautiful. And on top of it all, we have the audacity to complain that art is in a downfall.

    A poor life this if, full of care,
    We have no time to stand and stare.
     
  11. matadorpoeta

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    i just read the beginning of the article and i think the whole premise is over analyzing a bit. regardless of how talented the musician is, most people simply do not like classical music. this experiment is really no different than saying that when the vast majority of people scan thru their radios, they skip the classical station. if they're flipping thru their t.v. and this guy is on, playing the exact same music, in a great hall, wearing black tie, most people will change the channel. it seems to me this article only serves to state the obvious.
     
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    I saw a guy playing violin in downtown Seattle a month ago or so, and he was really, really good. He wasn't all dressed up or anything, but there were still quite a few people standing around listening to it. I probably would have done the same, at least for a while, but I was on my motorcycle, stopped at the traffic light. It's hard to say what was going on in those videos, but I'd like to think that not everyone is like that.

    And to those walking by with their iPod earplugs protecting them from the random virtuoso on the street, well, you got what you deserved.
     
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    Andrew, thanks for the link. I highly enjoyed the article.
     
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    Jesus H. Can we, along with the stooge who wrote this story, get over ourselves, please? I think this post does a good job of summing up just how ridiculous the article is:

    http://www.salon.com/ent/audiofile/2...cal/index.html

    What was the point? That not many people enjoy or appreciate classical music? I could have told you that without all the tut-tutting.
     
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    Thanks for the article. I almost cried when I read it. I'm a violin player myself but keep asking myself the question -- would I have stopped ? I hope I would.
     
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    Can we all agree that beauty is a subjective thing? If so...don't get in a tiff if I keep walking. What else is subjective? Calling something a masterpiece? I'd say so. The author is implying, or rather, flat out saying that because people didn't stop to listen or even drop some money into his case in appreciation, that we as a society have someone been diminshed by our day to day rush. How well...stupid. I'm guessing the author has no idea how the people passing by could have been affected by just hearing the music and walking by...carrying it in their heads at the start of a busy day. This could go on and on...my main point actually is that most people in the western world have this belief that "classical" music is something to be appreciated above all else...as if it exists on a whole other plain. "Classical" music is nothing more than a distilled for of art music - a dead form mostly - of European origins. I may be biased however....I just hate articles like this "experiment".
     
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    I saw a guy playing violin in downtown Seattle a month ago or so, and he was really, really good. He wasn't all dressed up or anything, but there were still quite a few people standing around listening to it. I probably would have done the same, at least for a while, but I was on my motorcycle, stopped at the traffic light. It's hard to say what was going on in those videos, but I'd like to think that not everyone is like that.

    And to those walking by with their iPod earplugs protecting them from the random virtuoso on the street, well, you got what you deserved.


    No, you will never hear someone like Joshua Bell play on the street. He makes $50,000 a concert minimum, so besides a little social experiment, you'd never get to see it.

    Well, like the art curator said, it was out of context. Most people are on their way to work. Do you really expect them to stop and listen?
     
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    great article, and an even more interesting experiment.
     
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    i just read the beginning of the article and i think the whole premise is over analyzing a bit. regardless of how talented the musician is, most people simply do not like classical music.

    The article is about beauty.

    Can we all agree that beauty is a subjective thing?

    No.

    Beauty is beauty . It's not relative.
    There may be some skill in sensing it, but it's not in the eye of the beholder.

    The best part of the article is about the kids wanting to listen.
     
  20. LabelKing

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    I didn't like that article's playschool dissertation of Kant, et al. beyond calling his book by the wrong title.
     

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