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An amazing Oxxford (see inside)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kcc, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. kcc

    kcc Senior member

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    First time I've seen an Oxxford garment with such a high gorge.

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    frontal view


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    BTW, I saw this on ebay. I'm not the seller.
     
  2. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    So how are you going to button this thing if the lapel rolls past the top button?
     
  3. DGP

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    Ok, someone help me here: There is a tag behind the lapel, but there are buttons on the cuff. If the suit is still new enough to have tags, shouldn't it be button-less on the cuffs? Or am I just reading too much into this?
     
  4. GMF

    GMF Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'm a little confused. This suit looks like it has a low gorge. Is my understanding of "gorge" 180 degrees off?

    Still learning the lingo... [​IMG]
     
  5. Soph

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    Low gorges that people think are high are in now[​IMG]

    It has a nice silo which is what matters for long term. (for an Oxxford I guess)
     
  6. BlvdDandy

    BlvdDandy Senior member

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    The gorge is where the lapel meets the collar.

    I guess I'm a little confused. This suit looks like it has a low gorge. Is my understanding of "gorge" 180 degrees off?

    Still learning the lingo... [​IMG]
     
  7. Soph

    Soph Senior member

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    The Gorge

    The Gorge is a technical term that defines the distance between the shoulders of the suit and the first button. Gorges change from season to season, and are just a function of personal and designer style. A high gorge means the first button is placed high on the suit. Hence why 3 buttons are as timeless as sex as the gorge placement is not a noticeable as say the 2 button imo. there are always exceptions.
     
  8. Duveen

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    I believe that the gorge is the little notch in the lapel, and that what Soph is referring to is the buttoning point/buttoning stance. Am I wrong? Only reason I think this is that I had the same understanding as Soph, posted it and was corrected...
     
  9. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    I believe that the gorge is the little notch in the lapel, and that what Soph is referring to is the buttoning point/buttoning stance. Am I wrong? Only reason I think this is that I had the same understanding as Soph, posted it and was corrected...
    The gorge is the notch of the lapel or point where lapel and collar meet, and the gorge height is the relative distance from that to the shoulder of the coat.

    The button stance or buttoning point is the depth of the V in front formed by the lapels meeting at the active button or top button.

    This coat appears to have a pretty high gorge, but if a picture is taken of any coat with a wide angle lens from a low angle, it will cause this effect. It's foreshortening. This makes it hard to judge proportions from a photo.
     
  10. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    So how are you going to button this thing if the lapel rolls past the top button?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. whoopee

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    The wide angle lens used does affect the proportions, but there is no doubt the gorge is very high. It's a bit extreme. Along with the buttoning point, it seems Oxxford was trying too hard.
     
  12. Soph

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    The wide angle lens used does affect the proportions, but there is no doubt the gorge is very high. It's a bit extreme. Along with the buttoning point, it seems Oxxford was trying too hard.


    ---Its interesting; not your father's Oxxford
     
  13. Soph

    Soph Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    -Cary looks utterly ridic in that photo and he has pocket square to spare. The guy could have worn a trashbag and looked decent though with that mugg of his.
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    So how are you going to button this thing if the lapel rolls past the top button?
    With some steam that roll should pop back where it goes. The Oxxford lapel doesn't roll through the working button.
     
  15. DGP

    DGP Senior member

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    ---Its interesting; not your father's Oxxford


    Until I have more information, I'm not even convinced it's a real Oxxford.
     
  16. Swann

    Swann Senior member

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    Is it the Radcliff model?
     
  17. tiger02

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    Until I have more information, I'm not even convinced it's a real Oxxford.
    Legit seller, and the closeups show a good bit of detail. It does appear to be a Radcliffe.

    On a related note BIN (different suit from the subject of this thread) for $72, used but looks to be in good condition. Claims sz 41 but measures 39L.
     
  18. Jovan

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    I'm going to have to agree, it seems overdone.
     
  19. DGP

    DGP Senior member

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    Legit seller, and the closeups show a good bit of detail. It does appear to be a Radcliffe.

    On a related note BIN (different suit from the subject of this thread) for $72, used but looks to be in good condition. Claims sz 41 but measures 39L.



    The other thing, and I could be over-analyzing, is that I'm not sure that both jacket pics are the same jacket. It's the tag. On the close-up, there is no tag behind the lapel. But on the zoomed out one, you can see it. And why would a used suit have a tag still on it? Let's see the auction, no?
     
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    minimal Senior member

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    The other thing, and I could be over-analyzing, is that I'm not sure that both jacket pics are the same jacket. It's the tag. On the close-up, there is no tag behind the lapel. But on the zoomed out one, you can see it. And why would a used suit have a tag still on it? Let's see the auction, no?

    Maybe not an Oxxford, OK fine, but maybe not even the same coat in each pic?

    Are you sure you're actually writing to the real Style Forum, and not an exact duplicate set up to falsely advertise fake Oxxfords by people who can't take 2 pictures of the SAME fake Oxxford?

    Just kidding of course. If I disappear tomorrow you'll know I stumbled upon the real conspiracy, so you should snipe that coat!
     

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