Alligator / Crocodile Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SpooPoker, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    The idea is not suspect, in the quality range that would be charging multiple thousands for shoes, they take on the massive responsibility or supporting a factory of skilled labor and a retail operation. Your operation is tailored to your client, however they have to assume the client and take the risk of their shoes not working for everyone.
     


  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I don't wish to flog a dead horse here but I suspect you didn't really understand the point I was making in my last post. With sincere respect, let me clarify...

    Relatively speaking, my $4000.00 whole cut alligator shoes cost more (maybe as much as three times more) to make...in terms of space(leased or otherwise); in terms of time (man hours to produce); in terms of raw materials; in terms of what proportion of the gross income is dedicated to marketing; than the $13,000.00 pair of whole cut alligator shoes.

    And, mine are hand welted and hand welt stitched.

    What's more, I am personally responsible for every pair that goes out the door not only in terms of workmanship and fit but in terms of reputation--something a large corporation can dodge with a strong publicity campaign...year after year.

    Yet somehow, against seemingly impossible odds...and unbelievable as it may seem, without any contempt for the customers' gullibility...I manage to make a decent profit without jacking blue sky up nearly 1000%.

    How does he do it???!!! :puzzled:
     
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  3. SkinnyGoomba

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    We may find agreement in single malts, but I think we may not be able to see eye to eye on this one. Fwiw I completely understand the point you are making. Maybe I'm doing a poor job or articulating my point.
     


  4. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Hey, no worries...only the malt is important.
     


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  7. SpooPoker

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    Nippon = Crocmeisters a go go...
     


  9. Ilovelobbs

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    It's all relative....but nowhere near the $14K quoted..above [​IMG]

    Agree - that's why the Chapel premium was a touch more than the Becketts....they needed a bigger baby croc to cover the 1 piece pattern (that was 2 baby crocs for a pair of Chapel)..
    All the off-cut gone into this pair:

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    Imagine the up charge on a size US14 Chapel...

    Thank you - I'll take them down to Justin the Shoe Snob when I am town....

    2 baby crocs for a pair of Chapel ..... some of US and Italian suppliers can quote upto €500 to €700 per croc skin .

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  10. chogall

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    You are size US 14? Wow must be very painful to shop...

    p.s., I actually liked that Lattanzzi pair.
     


  11. Ilovelobbs

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    I am a 44 - I was told the up charge on a US 14 would be huge.....

    Good spot on the Lattanzzi.....
     


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    I don't typically knock things I see on the forums I don't like, on accounts of there being other people who may not share my opinion on such, but these may literally be the fuck ugliest shoes I've ever seen in my life. Kill it with fire.
     
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  15. Ilovelobbs

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    aesthetics all subjective - this pair was made for some Chinese Billionaire - the salesman at the Lattanzi shop in NYC
    told me he paid over $10K....

    I laughed and said the off-cuts and small pieces in material cost probaby came to no more than $100...
     


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