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Alligator/Croc print leather vs genuine alligator/croc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by A Guy from Shanghai, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. A Guy from Shanghai

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    How do you guys tell the difference between alligator/croc print calf and genuine gator/croc leather?
     


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    usually based on the price tag, and the stamp on the back. if its not stamped as "genuine alligator", even if the salespeople insist it is, be skeptical. I once had a girl at a boutique selling mont blanc belts insist a belt was genuine ostrich, even though it wasn't stamped. I went home and checked on the internet, and sure enough, it was a pritn Poor quality prints are easy enough to tell apart, good quality, not so easy.
     


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    Price tag will be the easiest way to tell the difference.
     


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    We just had an example or two in this thread:
    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=61741

    Other than the price tag (of course), there are a few ways, although croc-print is getting better depending on the item. Overall, though, it seems to me that often croc-embossed/print leather looks basically like calf leather that has scales, or that has been pressed. Real croc or alligator (especially higher quality stuff) has a life and character of its own that doesn't really look at all like they took calf leather and stamped it.

    That's not a very good explanation, I know, but overall it really just comes down to seeing the real thing and then seeing the embossed. Generally, you'll go "Okay, I see it now." BUT, again, not all croc-embossing is created equal. As you move up the ladder, the embossing has uneven scales, deep grooves between the scales, "imperfections" in the skin, etc. A lot of designers use these, especially FerrÃ[​IMG] and Valentino; some of their embossed items are hard to tell without the price tag... the embossed bag will be $1350 and the alligator/crocodile will add a zero to the end.

    and the stamp on the back. if its not stamped as "genuine alligator", even if the salespeople insist it is, be skeptical.

    I don't think this matters that much. Really good quality stuff won't have a stamp any more than Hermes puts "Genuine Leather" on its wallets.
     


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    Price tag is the first tip off.

    Irregularity of scales and grooves is another.

    Interesting, I find that my recent alligator belt purchase from RLPL has a distinctive smell. It's a pleasant "fishy" smell.
     


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    JayJay Stylish Dinosaur

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    I can tell the difference by looking at it. I can't say for certain what it is I see, but I know it when I see it. I hate embossed exotic printed leather.
     


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    I can tell the difference by looking at it. I can't say for certain what it is I see, but I know it when I see it. I hate embossed exotic printed leather.

    What a skill to have. Kinda like asking what is porn? Can't explain it, but can tell when see it?
     


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    JayJay Stylish Dinosaur

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    What a skill to have. Kinda like asking what is porn? Can't explain it, but can tell when see it?
    I've admired antique and new exotics for years. I make a point of looking at them whenever I see them in shops regardless of whether it is an accessory or clothing. I own some exotic leather shoes but I don't wear them, at least not in these parts. Over time the difference in real and fake becomes easy to identify.
     


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    http://www.alligatorleather.com/

    Seems like a fairly reputable site. I'm thinking about getting a full alligator wallet and commision a belt.


    The alligator card cases (gym wallets) look very nice and are fractionally cheaper than most other ones on the market.

    I wonder what the quality of the leather is.

    Aren't "true" alligator wallets supposed to have brass/metal corners?
     


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    The alligator card cases (gym wallets) look very nice and are fractionally cheaper than most other ones on the market.

    I wonder what the quality of the leather is.

    Aren't "true" alligator wallets supposed to have brass/metal corners?


    A very high quality one will have some sort of precious metal corner.

    I also dislike embossed exotic goods--something tacky about them.
     


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    The alligator card cases (gym wallets) look very nice and are fractionally cheaper than most other ones on the market.

    I wonder what the quality of the leather is.

    Aren't "true" alligator wallets supposed to have brass/metal corners?


    No, true alligator wallets use real alligators.
    Then there's the quality of the gator skin itself, with the belly being most desirable.
    Metal corners are finishings typical of luxury houses such as Asprey, Hermes and the like, but by themselves do not denote genuine alligator.
     


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    Bite it. I'm serious.
     


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    The easiest way to tell is the membrane in between the scales has distinctive creasing and irregularities that embossing just can't replicate.
     


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