I grabbed a pair from ShoeBank not too long ago in 11.5D, and now that I have a blue Neumok in 11.5E I realize that is my better size for them. They have minimal try-on wear, and the only flaws I can find are slightly wrinkled leather (mainly when not on-foot) and the toes are a bit darker, but they present really well. If they're marked as seconds, they missed - there are sorta marks in the general area, but not anything close to the 2nd-shoe. It will be a couple of weeks before I can ship them (10/15) unless someone wants to grab them by Oct. 1st. I paid $147 plus shipping, and would like to be pretty close to that. I'll thrown in the bags and shipping.