Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by deveandepot1, May 19, 2011.
No A or AA?
Nick, iirc, it was said that AE couldn't recraft a 360 deg shoe down to a 270 deg welt when they came out with that a couple of years ago. Do you happen to know if they'll be able to recraft an older 360 shoe on this new trimmer 360 deg process?
Aside from trimming a closer heel, does this new process trim a closer welt all around?
I doubt it, but don't know for sure.
I would try contacting CS and ask for a supervisor in re-crafting.
I'm certain they can answer your question.
Let us know...
Any more pics out there? Or any info on extra narrow widths?
Call them why don't you? I called on something recently and they were very knowledgeable about upcoming products.
Alternatively- the CEO visits the AAAC forum- try him directly.
And the five new models are all in the Fall Catalog: http://issuu.com/allenedmonds/docs/2011_falldigest
Wingtip, Longwing, Captoe and two loafers.
^Thanks for the info.
Nothing that will work for me.
Yeah...I'm a 12B left and 11C right... i feel your pain.
The price list included in the catalog they mailed me shows the price for the Independence Collection at $445.
^ I doubt many people are willing paying that much for Allen Edmonds. They will likely sell well when on sale though.
The new Daltons look to be very nice, but I am afraid they used the same grommets as the Bayfield.
If they are judging any product simply on a brand name and stereotypes, that's their own fault.
Personally? That's a cheap price if their shoes are a step up accordingly. If they are getting back to the quality of a decade-plus ago, they very well could be well-priced; and a relative "bargain" versus prices for EG, G&G etc not to mention that they are much more widely available. If they eventually include this line in their custom option, it could be a real bargain.
The leather for the Independence collection comes for a French tannery that is also used by other more expensive brands. The leather feels very nice but, in my honest opinion, is a bit meh. Not sure how else to describe it, it just looks "dead" in person but the feel is very nice. The soles on the Independence collection are prettier than the normal soles, they are painted and none of that full rubber heel, but their regular soles are Redenbach so it's not like those stink. The indepence collection do feel nice in the hand and a step up from the regular offerings, but would like to see how that leather wears. I prefer AE's suede, I think they excel there and don't push it enough.
In finishing a custom order the leather sole offered was either oak bark or reddenbach. I agree with the suedes. They are pondering some other suede options apparently.
I agree also about the leather appearances- one area they don't put time/money into is a high-end polish. The shoes in store look dull. Maybe just more-so against the G&G's and Lobbs etc that put so much effort into finishes that owners have a hard time maintaining. Good thing is, in the right hands, they take a great polish and develop a nice patina over time.
But I'd wager that, for shoes at about 40% of their English competition, they're a pretty good deal. I'd hope so anyway... I have a custom pair due early October. We'll see how it turns out.
One thing about those new leathers is that they look like they will take on a really rich appearance when creamed/shined.
AE gets a lot of crap but in reality, on a construction basis they are pretty much the same as Alden, maybe even finished a bit better, as I have yet to have a pair of Alden's that did not have some cosmetic blemishes, particularly at the welt. AE's problem is the abundance of ugly models. if yuo pick the right models, in the right configurations, you have a winner.
Agreed- I do note the finishing around the welt of some in-store AE's is a bit rough at times as well.
Fondled the the Jefferson yesterday. The leather is definitely a step up from standard AE offerings; it has a finer grain and is softer. The welt is tighter and cleaner at the heel but more pronounced around the toe. The insole is a poron offering, which I have opted for in custom orders from AE and found to be noticeably more comfortable than standard. I do not yet know how well that instep holds up long term though. The Independence collection is not (yet) offered in the full range of AE sizes. The salesman did not know if the leather or any of the other features on the Independence collection is available for custom orders.
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