Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. OptoDoc

    OptoDoc Senior member

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    I have the Kenilworth and the Strand. The Kenilworth appears much sleeker than the Strand in person. However, I may be returning it due to some damn blasted ankle bowing.
     
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    Please someone can answer this? I need some help... ;)
    I ask about the Neumok model
     
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    The Neumok is unlined with a single leather sole while the McTavish is lined with a double leather sole. So the Neumok will likely be more comfortable and be a bit more casual. The Neumok is available in some colors not available in the McTavish, so that might be a deciding factor.

    I have 2 pair of McTavish (tan and cognac) and I really like them. They are a heavier shoe but I feel they are great in the casual / business casual setting. I do not have the Neumok so I cannot comment as to comfort, etc. However, I did see the blue Neumok at my local menswear / shoe store and it looked great - I was tempted.

    If you are going to be wearing the shoe mostly with jeans, etc., I think the Neumok might be a slightly better choice. But I really like my McTavish - especially if you are using it more in a business / casual setting.

    Chris
     
  5. 0ShinAkuma0

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    Well, I hope someone can answer you about the McTavish from personal experience, I don't own them. I can say that they look great and have great reviews on the AE site. I can give my absolute best recommendation for the Neumok (I've posted a few pictures in the past couple of pages on this thread, of the Navy blue Neumok). The quality is great, as expected, and most importantly the versatility is enormous. Of course I'm not gonna wear my blue Neumoks with slacks, but they go with pretty much everything else. Different shades of Khaki's, different colors of jeans, etc. etc.
    I do have to add, while the styles are similar between the McTavish and the Neumok, the feel is different. The Neumok as you know, offers some pretty bold color schemes, which is why I bought them. If you're looking for a traditional-ish brown/black shoe, the McTavish is your best bet.
    It pretty boils down to which color shoe you want. Sorry for rambling.

    If I'm understanding your question correctly, please let me know if I've misunderstood you, you are asking if you should get a size 8.5 if you're normally a size 9? I would say yes because I'm a size 13 and the 13 Neumok fits me just a tad too big, but nothing too severe, in fact, I do enjoy the overall fit. However, if AE offered the Neumok in 12.5, I would have bought that instead, sadly they don't offer it.
     
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    I will soon receive the Dalton in Walnut. I plan on wearing the shoe for a long, long time, so I was hoping if anyone could share some tips about caring for the Dalton.

    I have these two products:
    1. Wilson Leather, Suede and Leather Protector (Water and Stain repellant)
    2. Wilson Leather, Leather Lotion

    Could I use them on the Dalton? If so, should I spray first and then apply the leather lotion, or the other way around? Or do you suggest that I buy the Allen Edmonds Premium Shoe Polish?

    Thanks!
     
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    I hope real experts chime in, but I'll give my best guesses.

    Not knowing exactly what's in that lotion, I assume it's a fine thing to use on any calfskin. As for the protector, I'd pass on it and instead use polish; well-cared for shoes shouldn't need any extra water repellent. In particular, I think the repellent would prevent absorption of lotion and polish in the future (so I definitely wouldn't put it on before the lotion if you do choose to use it).

    I personally use the AE Conditioner/Cleaner before the Premium Shoe Polish, but am admittedly unsure how it differs from their Leather Lotion. Can anyone speak to the differences and when you'd pick one over the other?
     
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    Is anyone still selling Bayfield boots?
    I returned mine because of issues I had with the grommets. I wish I wouldn't have. Nobody is selling narrow boots for around $300.
     
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    I'm 42 and own two pairs. They are a touch on the stodgy side but sometimes that's appropriate. They are VERY comfortable and great for when it's wet out. I wear them with jeans and khakis. I wear them whenever I have serious walking to do.
     
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    The Wilson Leather Lotion will probably be fine, but I agree that you should stay away from the Water and Stain Repellant. While there seem to be some differing opinions on this, most seem to agree that calfskin should not have any product like this applied to it. One exception is Meltonian Rain and Stain, which does not contain any silicone. Silicone is a common ingredient in most water repellent leather sprays, and it can darken the leather and cause unwanted effects in how it recieves polish, etc. B. Nelson endorses Meltonian Rain and Stain, but he is about the only well regarded expert I have ever seen recommend it. Most other experts seem to feel like it is unnecessary at most, and may even be harmful. They typically say to just use your polishes and trust in their protecting abilities. Wax polish will repel water more than cream polish. If it were me, I would just pick up some AE Conditioner/Cleaner and some AE Walnut Polish and be done with it. The AE Leather Lotion is made for shoes that need to be cared for in such a way as to protect the color of their stitching or leather finish. The Daltons don't need this. It will be fine on your Daltons, but it isn't specifically formulated to serve the exact same purpose as the Cleaner/Conditioner. AE says that is has some cleaning properties to it, but the Cleaner/Condioner should be better for your purposes. You will probably want to restore their color from time to time using a colored polish. AE Conditioner/Cleaner can be used to care for the leather in between polishes just like Saphir Renovateur, and Leather Lotion will do something similar. I have a simple is better attitude with my stuff. I generally go with the care products made/recommended by the manufacturer. I will use other products that are well regarded as an improvement over common manufactuer products if I feel like they are necessary (such as Saphir products).
     
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    You've had a couple of responses to your inquiry and I don't disagree with anything they've said. But if you wish to preserve the color of your Daltons just as you received them, I would caution you on using the AE cleaner/conditioner. If you don't mind them darkening a bit, the AE product is excellent. I don't own the walnut calf Daltons but I have personally found that using the AE cleaner/conditioner darkens lighter colored calf leather. I still use it all the time on darker shoes and it works great. I can recommend Saphir Renovateur on your Daltons as I've found that it does not seem to darken lighter colored calf (or if so, just barely). Venetian Cream does not darken calf much either but others have claimed that it doesn't work nearly as as well on calf as it does on shell. Good luck and enjoy your Daltons. It's a great boot!
     
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    +1

    I use Reno all the time on shell and calf and I have never experienced darkening.
     
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    Thank you everyone for your helpful responses! I'll purchase the AE Walnut Polish. I guess I'll have to think about the conditioner because of the darkening issue.

    Has anyone used the conditioner / cleaner on a Walnut colored calfskin? Could you share your experiences (how much it darkens)? I don't think I'd mind a slight darkening, but not too much.

    Thanks again!

    P.S. It looks like the Wilson Suede and Leather Protector is also free of silicone and wax (http://www.wilsonsleather.com/info/index.jsp?categoryId=1837229).
     
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    Good to know that their product is free of silicone as well. I don't have any personal experience with that type of product, mainly for the other reasons I posted, being that it is not considered to be necessary and many do have bad experiences using it. As for the AE Conditioner/Cleaner darkening the leather, I have no reason to dispute what the other gentlemen said happened on their shoes. This hasn't been my experience. I have the Sanford in Burnished Walnut calf, which is slightly darker than the regular Walnut calf, so I may not have detected the change. Also, there was some discussion a few months ago in this thread (try searching back), from some people who felt like the Walnut polish actually darkened the leather by a shade. BootSpell, or sevenfoldtieguy, could that have possibly been a reason for your results? I think the people who described that issue said that they preferred to use Cognac polish instead of Walnut. Unfortunately Cognac is being discontinued (you can still get it under the clearance tab on AE's website). I also use AE Conditioner/Cleaner on my Tan Finches. They have darkened slightly as well, but I attribute that to the saddle soap that I use after the conditioner. I knew beforehand that the saddle soap would darken them a couple of shades, and I was ok with that. They are still a gorgeous tan color that I can't take my eyes off of. [​IMG]
     
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    I own walnut Strands (pic here) and have used the AE conditioner/cleaner, AE walnut cream polish, and AE neutral carnauba wax polish (let me know if you think this is a bad idea, anyone) on them. It's possible that they have darkened a bit over time, but I haven't noticed. I'm okay with it though if this is the effect these products have over time, provided it is a slight darkening.
     
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