Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
I hate that!
So new, so unspoiled. They fit like a glove.
I got an email confirmation with the tracking # and order #. I've ordered through this AE outlet several times and this was the first time I've ever received one.
Good work, my friend, walnut is a great color
Hmm...There is some wrinkling on the side of my walnut dalton boot that I might say qualifies it as below a second...but at this price I don't really care (and all of the nits I have to pick with the pair are mostly things that will not be visible or would occur naturally after a few wearings). The shoes are pretty sweet--I only tried on the right one but it fit great and the leather really does feel more supple and easy to break in than black custom calf.
I am not sure that I am happy with the shoe trees they sent though. They are not split-toe and the heel is "full" but is really so narrow and pointed that you would have to have some janky-ass feet for it to actually be anywhere near full The bottom part is down right pointy....
All of my other trees are split toe which I would think makes sure they always fit to the edges of the shoe (and they can adjust their angle slightly for pointy/rounder shoes)....And they all have better heels that are actually round on the bottom and back.
I'm not sure there is really any advantage to their tree over the $12 nordstrom rack special which has a split toe and OK heel (but not as nice a heel as the costco trees that you can't get anymore)...so I am wondering if I should return it or switch it to a less important shoe.
Did you get those as seconds?
I've seen those in person - spectacular. I think this model of shoe takes very well to the pebbled grain walnut - an almost perfect marriage.
I have an older pair in black; this shoe happens to fit me very well.
I hear you on the wrinkling. I have some significant wrinkling on the sides of my pair after only a couple of weeks, but I don't mind as this is likely unavoidable, adds character, and the boots are meant to be worn!
Ouch. I'm glad I had them ship to an amerifriend. Didn't they used to ship by USPS?
i got mine today! thanks Edward!
My Bayfields had rubber soles. very wrinkly on the sides thought.... probably the cause for the steep discount.
Yeah, weird wrinkely side on the left shoe (too bad it is on the outer side) and not so great stitching on the welt...uneven distance between edge of sole and stitch line.
I wonder if the reason AE has such a neverending supply of seconds is because they have to spend inordinate amounts of time training new shoemakers (since they are the lowest level shoemaker still making them in the US, maybe they have to keep training new people as experienced talent jumps ship to Alden or something). At least by having the huge seconds program, you can take an upper that ended up a little wrinkled and give it to the guy who is just learning how to attach soles. The end result is not horrible...but you could never display it on the shelf at a flagship store and thus it goes into the seconds pile.
I picked up a new pair of Walnut Daltons this summer from my local AE store and later returned them for that "wrinkling" you describe - it was on the upper outside of the right boot. The SA explained that sometimes the leather on a panel like that is extra "beefy" which I can understand - I didn't notice it during my initial purchase for reasons explained upthread. To their credit they took the boots back with no issue, even though they'd been worn outside, and procured another pair for me within a week. Now this was for a new pair at retail so I was being a lot more picky. For the "beefyness" I saw on mine - which mostly was just a frustrating issue of trying to achieve a perfect shine/appearance - I would have been totally OK if they'd been seconds; further, the area in question is one that most won't ever see unless the owner wears those boots with shorts or something - even with crossed legs the normal way will have the outer area of the boot upper facing down. If I had it to do all over again and I could buy that same pair of boots at the amazing prices you all are reporting I'd grab them in a heartbeat. Just my $0.02.
I am sure someone else has already posted about this but here goes:
I measure 11H (ll.5) C/B width on the measuring device and I have ordered sizes from 10-12 in widths BCD.
I found that the size 10.5D fits comfortably but the balmora is not being shown in all of its glory. If I go with the 10.5C they feel snug, but if they stretch a bit with wear they will be perfect, and you can see the V. If I go to a size 11 C my heel starts to slip a bit. I did not try the 11B though. The V not showing bothers me a lot. I tried/wore the shoes with these dress socks, 10.5D, and then I tried them on with my running socks (I was trying to replicate a thick dress sock, and they fit how the 10.5C fit.
I am at a point where I am really liking dress shoes and am ready to purchase the Dalton boot and the K(forgot the name). I do not want to make a mistake and order wrong sizes. I understand that the last of the different shoes will make the shoe feel different but I would really like the the Strand I currently own and really want to see the V.
Can you guys advise on what I should do please?
Sorry if my post is confusing, its late and I am tired.
If you are talking about the 5 last on AE (Park Ave, 5th Ave, Strand, Cambridge, McAllister) and if the above comments are about trying one of those shoes on... it sounds like you should look at a 10.5 C. The calf shoes will stretch a bit, shell cordovan not so much. If you are a 10.5C on the 5 last, I bet you'll be a 11 B or 11 C on most of the other lasts. (the 5 last is a little longer than most of the others).
If you are buying a balmoral for more formal wear (suits) then plan to wear thin socks.
In the Dalton Boot, I wear the same size I do on the 5 last balmorals. But, I tend to wear them only for work, with thin dress socks. If you are going to wear them with thicker socks, you may want to go to a 10.5 D / 11 C.
In my experience, one can adjust how a shoe fits by almost a full width or 1/2 size just by pairing them with the right thickness sock.
I received my Daltons and Fifth Streets and other than one tiny little spot that is hidden I cant tell a single thing wrong with either (they are seconds).
Great! I should be getting my Fifth Streets today. Greatly looking forward to a balmoral boot!
On what makes them "seconds" - I have a few pair of seconds, and have only had one pair of seconds that I had to return because the problem was too much of a concern. The funniest thing that made a pair of mine "seconds" is on my black shell leeds - the insole doesn't say Allen Edmonds - it's just blank. So, either they put the insole in upside down, or put an insole in the shoe that didn't get the AE stamp. I think it was probably sewn in upside down... In any event, I got a great deal on a pair of "almost first" leeds in shell!
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