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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. random-adam

    random-adam Senior member

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    The Vernon would be nice, but all those perfs really push it away from the unadorned black tie ideal. I would avoid the Kenilworth for the same reason I haven't bought their current Mayfair patent offering or worn my black cordovan Leeds: bluchers are casual and eveningwear is not.

    I'm in a tuxedo at least monthly; for lack of the Ritz or Copley or any of the classic black tie shoes that Allen Edmonds used to produce, I've defaulted to bulled-toe black Park Avenues as my workhorse black tie shoe.

    If my feet weren't AA width I'd buy a pair of these immediately, along with some black silk laces to spiff them up.
     
  2. fiestaplatypus

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    So, over various points over the last couple years, I'm sure I've read several opinions on the fit of the 1 last, but I could use some help on sizing.

    I bought the Bayfield last year during the 2/$200 sale and picked up my usual size, a 13D. For me, a 13D in the 5 last is just about right in the toebox, but a bit too long for my foot. A 12.5E is usually a better fit, but much more difficult to come across in a ready to wear option. A 12.5D pinches too much on the pinky toes. When I received the Bayfields, I ininitally thought the fit was pretty good, but upon wearing them, I quickly realized that the toebox was very limiting, especially on the top and side of my pinky toes. The heel seemed ok, as did the length (although it is on the smaller size compared to my other AE's...closer to a 12.5).

    Is this a common complaint with the 1 last across the board, or is it just something specific to the Bayfield? I'm currently looking to get in on the MTO Shell Leeds that bucksfan is organizing, but I really don't want to screw up the sizing on this one. As cordovan is typically a slightly looser fit, as I've found with my Strands and McCalisters, I have no idea what to do. I'm leaning towards a 13E, but if anyone has any opinions, I'd gladly welcome them.

    Thanks in advance!

    EDIT: I should add that getting to an AE store is not an easy feat for me, as I'm at least 3 hours away from the nearest one. Chances are, I won't be traveling for work anytime before the deadline for the MTO shoes.
     
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    Does anybody have pics of the discontinued style Hamptons in brown calf?

    There are some at the shoebank in my size I'm considering but just wanna see some more pics before I pull the trigger.

    Thanks!!!!
     
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    That looks very similar to a model called the Fenwick I saw presented for Spring 2013 release. I don't know for sure as there is a slight difference in the vamp. Chris
     
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    check page 931 of this topic - somebody just bought a pair and posted photos.

    Chris
     
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  6. reidrothchild

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    I was told that AE would do any shoe as a custom make up for something like a $150 fee. The option is not on their website. I believe you'd have to do it through an AE dealer or order from AE directly. For all I know, they may no longer offer this service.
     
  7. reidrothchild

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    How do you like the Veronas? Those would be my first choice from the Italian line, but there are no seconds in my size. I'm going to try out the Modenas (had a pair of seconds in my size for $130) and maybe pay full freight for Verona firsts if I like the Modena.
     
  8. kmdsimpson

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    I've been happy with them. I was set against the Italian shoes with Bologna construction. But I went to a store and tried on every loafer they had, and the Veronas were the most comfortable for me, by far. Plus, they look great, and I get compliments on them all the time. For a bit loafer, they really got the proportions right.

    I paid full price for them in brown. I like them so much that I bought the black and the brown suede on clearance, both with the rubber soles (called the Lucca, but the same shoe, just different sole). The brown suede in particular is great with jeans.
     
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  9. acousticfoodie

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    You could just get them recrafted by B. Nelson. They are actually a little bit cheaper and people trust them with their Aldens, EGs and J Lobbs
     
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    I'll give this a shot. Thanks, guys. Now I just hope that Mora is still available...
     
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    Reading Bucksfan's post rang a bell for me, and I think I can add to this.

    I had the Dundee in shell and I have the Hamptons in calf. Both are 1 last. The Hamptons fits me great and is nice and roomy in the toe box. The Dundees are so tight in the toe box that they almost feel a size smaller. I thought it was just me, or an odd pair, but I think this is consistent with what Bucksfan is saying here with boots fitting tighter than shoes on this last (correct me if I'm wrong).

    Odd, but also encouraging to know that it's not just me.
     
  13. kmdsimpson

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    Wondering if someone here copped these.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Edmon...=&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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    They are the old Bel Air, which is a great looking shoe, but has been out of production for a long time. They are listed as pre-owned, but look to be new; maybe tried on on store. I literally stumbled upon these with less than 2 minutes left in the auction, and I held myself back from bidding. Anyway, congrats to whoever bought them - great shoes!
     
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  14. reidrothchild

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    I bought the Bel Airs a few years back. Great shoes that still look brand new.

    Came home today and found my Singletons waiting for me. They are beautiful loafers. I'm not quite sure they are made to Independence standards, or at leas the leather doesn't feel the same to me. RL feels somewhere in between regular AE and Independence in softness. The burnishing on the toe is very well done. I was expecting basically the Randolph in walnut maybe with softer leather and some burnishing, but it's quite a bit sleeker IMO than the Randolph or any other loafer AE makes under its own name.

    Thought I post a few pics for anyone thinking about them. A few comparo shots with the cordovan Randolph:

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    An interesting detail on the back:

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    Was super excited about them until I pulled out the other shoe and noticed the apron :fu:

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    I've never returned a pair of 2nds due to a defect, but I think this is too much for me. I'd be annoyed every time I looked down, so back these will go. Undecided on whether I'll exchange for another pair and hope for a less noticeable defect, get the Verona, or maybe try the brown cordovan Norwich.

    Can anyone comment on the fit of the Norwich? I know it's on the 222 last, which does not fit me well. But, as has been discussed recently, some shoes on the 1 fit differently, so I was wondering if anyone could speak to the fit of the calf and/or the cordovan Norwich and whether is as uncomfortably narrow as other shoes on the 2.
     
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    The Norwich tends to run narrow, as far as I can tell. I tried them on in my regular size (10.5D) and the SA advised me to go to a 10.5E. It wasn't super uncomfortable but I did notice that it was pretty tight in some areas when wearing my normal size.

    Still waiting for the 10.5E to arrive at my house so I can't attest to its fit yet.
     
  16. reidrothchild

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    +1. My left foot is 11.5 on the Brannock, while my right is between 11 and 11.5. The Leeds in 11.5D simply would not work for me because of MAJOR heel slip on my right foot. I ordered 11.5D in the Malvern (also on the 1), thinking I'd be wearing thicker socks, so the heel slip wouldn't be as bad. The Malvern was crazy tight on in the toe box on both feet. Had to return and size up to a 12D, which fits great. If you hold the Leeds next the Malvern, the toe area of the Leeds actually looks much more boot like IMO than the Malvern. I've not tried on any other AE boots, but I can only assume that boots on the 1 last just fit differently than the shoes.
     
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    Any ideas on this? Thinking I may bring them by the AE store in NYC tomorrow, but would like to hear if anyone has any experience with an issue like this. Not only does the leather seem dry, but it also seems darker than the cap and front of the shoe. Thanks for input!
     
  18. bucksfan

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    the color difference is what would bother me. If you are unhappy, I would return.
     
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    Let me start off by saying that the service at AE's Madison avenue branch in new york is excellent and I am very pleased with the store experience.</p>
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    I was wearing contact lens when I was buying these walnut strands, so I did not notice these small little details.</p>
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    It's the most expensive shoe I've bought in my life, so I'm a little paranoid. Paid full retail for these.</p>
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    Here are the photos:</p>
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    Inner side of right shoe. Seems like it was not cut properly. (brown part, not the black part.)</p>
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    <a href="http://www.styleforum.net/content/type/61/id/627308/" id="yui_3_7_3_1_1357365472034_1598"><img alt="" data-id="627308" data-type="61" src="http://www.styleforum.net/content/type/61/id/627308/width/500/height/1000" /></a></p>
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    Roughness on the outside of the left sole. I have no issue with this if the color can be filled in with polishing.</p>
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    <a href="http://www.styleforum.net/content/type/61/id/627309/" id="yui_3_7_3_1_1357365472034_2091"><img alt="" data-id="627309" data-type="61" src="http://www.styleforum.net/content/type/61/id/627309/width/500/height/1000" /></a></p>
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    What do you guys think?</p>
     
  20. TheSizzle

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    I think you need to go back and reformat that.
     
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