^^^Thanks for the detailed reply Patrologia. etran27, I think if you follow the guidelines Patrologia described above (along with the always recommended professional measuring from an SA if possible), then you should be ok as long as the shoe is comfortable. If you are still running into trouble after all that, then you may be experiencing a simple case of a shoe last that isn't very compatible with your foot. Such is the plight of people who buy ready-to-wear shoes. My Sanfords, for example, are quite comfortable through the entire shoe, with the exception of the toes being slightly scrunched together. It is simply the way the 7 last fits my foot.