Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
So far I am not a fan of PTBs also.
Strands in Bourbon. Want.
I used to agree with you, and can certainly understand your opinion, but I think there's very much a place for a PTB for those who
like the simple, unadorned look of shell cordovan
tend to dress casual to business casual (particularly denim, chinos, corduroy, etc.)
like Americana (who does this better than AE or Alden?)
have wingtips, split toes, etc. in their collection, but sometimes want something more understated
Just got it from an SA that the Mcallisters will be 15% off when the sale starts.
I see where you're coming from, I don't care for the current PTBs in the AE lineup. But the Seven Collection Vinci's are probably my favorite pair.
Here's another pic of it, from AE's website: (second from the left)
Generally, I can brush those away with a brush gently dipped in a bowl of water. Or, use the back of a spoon with a cloth underneath and really massage them out, or your thumb - lots of pressure. I've never had any permanent spotting welts that couldn't be alleviated.
I abhor wing-tips for the contraposition: a busy, meretricious design.
Shell especially, is wasted on brouged wintips, as the soft rolls and character of shell are prominently celebrated with a simple PTB design.
Do you hate whole-cuts, too? Chukka's? Chelsea-boots? I suspect you have more issue with the bulky last-shape of American makes AE & Alden PTB's than the concept. The Leeds are rather "blobby", I admit, LOL. Still love mine.
These are pure sex:
All IMO of course Variety in opinion is what makes style so fun.
Is it correct that both firsts and seconds will be having the 15-30% sale?
That cigar shell looks great, I hope Alden can get the welts out for you. I've been lucky with my shell shoes and boots so far and have not had any water welts that didn't go away on thier own knock on wood. All of mine are AE.
Thanks looks like Defender just came out last year but everyone seems to swear by it that has tried it from what I can tell.
Updated picture from the other day in natural and better lighting of my #8 Dundee's. Which got soaked in the rain the first time out.
All of my #1 and #5 last are the same size. And are the 2 lasts I have the most shoes in.
And so do I. That supplemental catalog appears to be different and newer than the one I have. Thanks.
I do like wingtips and also perf cap toes. But everything else you said I agree with totally, well said. And yes those boots are HOT!
Anyone have experience with the Clifton? They are discontinued but still available as seconds. Thinking of picking one up in burgundy. Anyone have it in burgundy? I think it will go nice with slacks and a dress shirt.
Think I'll get a burgundy Clifton and black Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue from the shoe bank on Monday. Already have the Strands in walnut.
Any chance we'll see a Jefferson in shell cordovan at some point?
Cliftons get a lot of love here, including from me. See my post, quoted above. Great shoe on a great last. Get it!
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