I am a Dallas Cowboys fan, but I could get used to those Redskins! Definitely hoping the Gramercys will be similar to these. Count me in the dissent as well... I was originally passing on the Cronmok since I really liked the blue/navy leather, but couldn't see myself wearing them... too much 70s Leather Man or 80s Jean on Jean guy. But, based on the new supplement pics, I think I too am in for a tan pair; especially on sale. Not sure what my plan would be for the Gramercys either when they land. Definitely hitting them with some Reno to bring out some luster, but not sure of using any paste wax as they may be too shiny for the more "casual" look. Possibly will use some of the AE chili color premium polish (in the tube), but don't want to mess too much with that beautiful redskin color they seem to have from the pics. I am in Texas and wear my walnut anytime of year. The walnut Daltons are a great winter blues buster and always get compliments from the young ladies at the office.