Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
cordovan has thick beefy rolls/creases. not every brown shoes are cordo.
and no, they are just calf.
Mexicutioner, this has turned into a great list, as shown by the many people who contributed. I'll add that the Clifton is still available through Nordstrom, just as someone mentioned the McClain is still at JAB.
The 8 happens to be my favorite last, and it seems that a lot of other agree. So my question is - why are they reducing the number of models on this last? I mean, they wouldn't have all of the models shown here at any one time, but why only three, of which two (LaSalle and Delray) are similar? Is there another last that they consider to be the "replacement" for the 8? Maybe the 3 or the 6? Anyone have any knowledge or opinions on this?
The seemingly narrower welt might be due to the difference between cordovan and calf.
It seems like AE is introducing most of its new shoes on the 5 last and 3 last and limiting its 8 last shoes. The Delray is not going anywhere, but I've noticed a recent trend by AE to introduce 8 last shoes as closeouts. For example, I had never heard of the McClains or Parklands before, but both of these 8 last shoes showed up as closeouts at $250. I wonder if we will continue to see more of this in the future and whether the 8 last will dominate this category.
I couldn't really tell from the creasing of the small pic, however when they started talking about the patina, i thought they were referencing the fact that they are shell. Shell walnut is rather darker, however I've seen pics before where they look almost mustard-like, so the color could be just the pic. But I agree, they are calf....
Who said that every brown shoe is cordovan? I was talking about the walnut strands as they were referencing the "patina" on them...
Just thought I would liven up the conversation with a few pics I found of my walnut calf Daltons vs my walnut shell Daltons:
Nice boots. Only a true fan finds it within himself to pony up the dough for essentially the same boot - one in calf, one in shell.
give those puppies the shoe shop lace... i think it looks awesome for boots like that
333 last is a winner......hoping to get some Parkways next
bucksfan mentioned it back a couple hundred pages ago and asked if maybe it could have an effect on bowing. I'm wearing my shell Cambridge today where the right shoe has started to exhibt minor bowing. I took them off and put them on my desk and pushing the heel flat on the right shoe the sole is still flat on the desk. On the left shoe which does not bow I push the heel flat and the sole lifts about 3/8" off the desk. Interestering....
Yes please let us know what they say and how it goes for you.
The right shoe of my Jefferson's has been slick on tile since the day I got them. I almost posted to ask if anyone else has had this problem when last week the very bottom rubber of the heels started to come off. Which isn't a bad thing in this case. Under the rubber part of the heel is a large carriage bolt like head. It was pushing up on the right heel and creating a very small bump much like a roller bearing which is what was causing the shoe to be slipping on hard tile. I will have my cobbler carve out some of the hard rubber in the bottom of the heel to allow room for the bolt head before he glues it back down and it should solve that problem. Other than that I haven't had a problem with them being uncomfortable and now wonder if the heels have pitch or not. And yes they do look great!
Nice! I have the brown 5th St. wish I could afford all 6 webgem boots LOL. You know you might as well just order 3 sets of shoe trees right now, just saying.... Looking forward to the pictures.
How does the 333 compare to the 5 last?
Good lord! I need these.
I have two thoughts on these images:
1. Whenever I am given the choice between shell and calf, from here on out it's either shell or save my money.
2. If Allen Edmonds were to take product shots outside in natural light rather than in a sterile lightbox, their website would go from blah to YOWZA.
After picking up my first pair of shells, I am inclined to say the same for #1. Finding a good fit is considerably harder for shell though, I have to say. I have considerable bowing with my shell strands vs no bowing on my calf ones because of the looser upper (higher instep) of the shell model. It doesnt really bother me though because it is covered by my trousers, but nonetheless, a sign of an imperfect fit. Has anyone else experienced this with their shell models, and can this be rectified during the recrafting process?
Giving those calf Daltons a proper shine may change opinions, or at least level the playing field a bit...
I prefer shell, personally, but calf can be mirrored as opposed to the rather matte looking boot pictured.
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