Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
Great looking shoes. What other AE's do you own? Can you offer a fit comparison to other lasts?
I actually like the look of that Chinese site, its surprisingly sleek. Seems to have an emphasis on Cordovan too.
Already happening, if you remember the sale earlier this year, where 1st Qual shells were $399, that was to clear out the inventory (in fact, the sale was only good on shoes already made and sitting in inventory). It looks like they didn't clear all of them out, though (if you go onto the AE website, some shells are still immediately available, and most have a wait time noted when you put in your size).
My SA basically said that AE is selling a lot more shoes than years past, so they need the inventory space, and shell cordovans tend to sit a lot longer than the calf shoes before being sold. AE is just trying to manage their inventory better.
They just went from the old price ($545 if I remember right?) to $575 at the beginning of this year - I would anticipate another price increase beginning of 2013.
My AEs: all 9.5E
Natural Mctavish (5 last)
Brown/brown Strawfut (5 last)
Brown suede Cambridge Brogue (5 last)
Walnut Flatirons (3 last)
In regards to fit, all the 5 last shoes fit great except for the Cambridge. For some reason, they are really tight and I haven't worn them outside the house yet. I'm slowly trying to break them in, and if I can't, I'll probably try to exchange them or sell them at some point. The Mctavish and Strawfut fit like a glove and are extremely comfortable to wear.
When I originally bought the Flatirons, I tried on the 10D and 10E. The10E were way too wide and long. When I first tried the 10D on, they felt good. But after wearing them, they definitely hurt because it became painfully clear that they were too tight (on my right foot) and a bit long. I was able to return the 10D and was able to order a pair of 9.5E, which I have now and they fit a lot better. I will say the 3 last is definitely sleeker in appearance, but fit similarly to my 9.5E 5 last shoes.
The last of shoes are funny. I had no idea what last were until I bought my first pair of AEs. I do highly recommend trying shoes on of various sizes though because it seems fit vary by last (My Cambridges being a prime example).
The different fit on the Cambridges could come from the material. The suede may fit tighter to the last than the rough leather of the McTavish. The Strawfut may be giving you more room due to the mesh.
chinese site, LOL.
i'm chinese, working in the states. i'm really glad that people can buy AE shoes in China.
according to the site, a retail store will be opened in shanghai this coming december.
i'm really curious about the price then.
Agreed. Customer service has been fine; just a poor manufacturing process and poor quality assurance. The fact that someone plugged the holes and shipped the same shoes back to me indicates that someone in the factory doesn't care about their job.
The CS representative I dealt with this time told me that she will inspect the shoes I am sending back, and she is also having the new pair sent to her for personal inspection before they ship to me.
Cool, thanks for the input. From the look of it, and your description, it sounds like the 3 last is very similar to the old 0 last, which fits me well. There may be some Larchmonts in my future...
Hope things get straightened out. Having a number of shell shoes myself, I know once you get them you'll enjoy them for a very long time.
Yes it started at the end of last year. The wait times are a bit optimistic from what I've experienced so far. My shell Bradley's were originally ordered Dec. 22 and arrived almost 3 months later in March. They bowed badly so I sent them back for another pair, AE called me yesterday to tell me they shipped and should be at my house tonight (can't wait!). I expect my shell Cambridge will take around the same length of time to arrive, they were ordered ~8 weeks ago and I still do not have them. The CS rep told me back in March that they were having supply issues with their shell supplier (Horween) so that may be a factor in the delivery time.
(I realize you don't work for AE bucksfan, but...) I guess what I'm wondering is, will cordovan show up in the custom section of the AE website soon, or will you just have to contact them directly if you want cordovan, like you presently have to if you want a custom cordovan shoe? And, either way, will the price be the price of current RTW ($575) or custom (I think $100 extra, or $675) cordovan AEs?
Excellent question. I don't know - I've mentioned to anyone who will listen at AE that cordovan should be an option for the custom shoes, and they have been telling me that it's in the works now for 9 months. I still don't see it. I imagine it will be the $100 markup for "custom" if and when they add it.
I love AEs and would like to own some in cordovan, but I'm not sure I'd (1) be able to justify $675 shoes, and if I was able to justify it, (2) choose AEs over Aldens, C&Js, etc. at that price -- I'm assuming that it will be hard to get these custom/MTO AE cordovans at a discount like their calf shoes. We're even approaching, say, cordovan Carminas. Customization is of course a notable factor. We'll just have to see what route they go.
You are comparing to calf C&Js right? I don't think you can get cordovan C&Js at that price unless you are referring to Ralph Lauren Marlows by C&J. Even handgrade C&Js would be a little higher than that at retail.
Here's where I was looking:
Pediwear cordovan C&Js are about $628 (404 pounds).
Epaulet cordovan Carminas are $825.
Cordovan Aldens are well known to be in the $600 to $700 range.
Cordovan C&Js for Ralph Lauren are $850.
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