Many seem to think that AE provides excellent value but would you pay full retail for this? If not, then at what price would you consider fair? It's not that full priced one aren't fair, but it's so easy to not pay full price. Even new models can be bought for a good discount on shoebuy with 10% off, plus another 10% for signing up for their emails, and I think 13% cashback thru b of a. Most retail priced ones are around 280-350. I say under 200 is a pretty decent deals and easy to find, and under 150 are rare, although possible, deals.