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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. imatlas

    imatlas Senior member

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    I agree, it sounds these are from two different pairs, unless one has had an insole added? Do both sockliners say Allen Edmonds?
     
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  2. Cold Iron

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    I hope they work out for you, really wanted them to for me. If they are two tone at least AE has a VERY easy return policy and if you like them there is the solid Nordstrom version. Good luck.


    Longevity of shell compared to calf. Ease of maintenance is another, as mentioned brushing is addictive LOL. When I first get a shell shoe I spend at least an hour with the horse hair brush on them. SouthNarc mentioned using a nylon stocking for polishing and I also do that for calf. But I also use them for polishing shell after a quick brushing after wearing at the end of the day and before wear the next time. I insert my hand into the stocking and use the foot portion, in only a minute or 2 it generates enough heat to help with the glow that shell can provide. How you obtain the stocking is up to you...

    Variations. Most shell is not uniform, and in my case at least I have been lucky with AE shell. That adds character to the shoe and is unmistakable as being a shell shoe with just a glance. With the Bradley I actually want a uniform color however and both pair so far have been. But even my shell Leeds have much darker uppers than the main body. My walnut shell boots have a LOT of black highlights in them. But the walnut shell Strands have dark and light pieces enough that it would be redundant for me to purchase the brown shell Strands. And the Cambridge are nothing short of stunning with the dark and light burgundy IMO. Hard decision between the Longwings or Bradley only you know which would fit your requirements the best.

    Burgundy shell Bradley and Leeds:
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    Walnut Shell Dalton:
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    Burgundy shell Cambridge:
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    I do like the AE burgundy shell the most and will not purchase a shoe in merlot calf if I can get it in shell. But a comparison of walnut calf (McAllister) to the walnut shell:
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  3. gavrarabba

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    I'm wondering what everyone here thinks of the Strand in black. I searched this forum and it seems mostly people have the Strand in Walnut. I actually already wear the Sanford in Walnut, which I love, but I'm looking for a new black Oxford. The Strand looks a little more interesting to me than PA or FA. Wondering what the consensus is, thanks.
     
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    If you are using the black oxford for formal dress I would say that the brogueing makes it less formal. Personally I would not wear black for anything other than formal dress.
     
  5. msulinski

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    Generally speaking, black is a formal color, but the Strand is an informal shoe due to all of the brogueing. Therefore, getting them in black means you have a shoe that is too casual to wear in very formal environments, and too "boring" for causal ones. By boring, I mean that, despite all of the nice detailing in the shoe, you can barely see it do to the color.
     
  6. New Shoes1

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    +1. Too busy for your go to business shoe and too boring for a more casual shoe.
     
  7. SuitedDx

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    I think black is more popular with our cousins across the pond. Here in SF-land, brown is more popular possibly due to the potential for patina. Personally, I do have more brown/tan/burgundy shoes vs. black; however, I do have a selection of black shoes that include a bal cap toe, cap toe chelsea boot, wholecut with medallion, DM, and hopefully soon I plan to add a bal Austerity wing tip. I also have a pair of shell LWB in black. I think black cap toes are standard but if you want to add more to your rotation, sure, why not a black Strand?
     
  8. BackInTheJox

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    I think there does exist a much larger middle ground than most SFers would care to believe. I would absolutely use the black strands to fill my needs. I see patients every day (I'm a doc) and a typical day of dress for me include a shit and tie, gray/charcoal slacks, and either a pair of black PAs or black Delrays (+/- whitecoat). The black PAs seem a bit too formal with that get-up, and the Delrays I like just fine, but a pair of black Strands would fill that need perfectly as well.

    If you only have two switches ("3 piece suit" and "weekend wear"), then maybe the black Strand isn't for you. But for any type of situation where you would want a black shoe but are not wearing a full-blown suit, I think the Strands work perfectly.

    Just my two cents.
     
  9. Papa Doble

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    Short answer: If you are going to own one black shoe, I would not suggest the Strand. It would be a fine shoe, but I will default to the standard SF advice and advise a plain cap toe balmoral, such as the PA.

    Long answer: However, I don't agree with others that a black Strand is somehow wrong. Suppose you need two black balmorals, which I'm sure many men do. If I needed another black balmoral (currently only have PA), I'd probably go with a perf cap (FA, Fifth Street), brogued cap toe (Strand), or a wingtip (McAllister, Cambridge, Jefferson). There are other options, but these are the styles I would consider. The perf cap would be too close to the PA for me, which would leave a brogued cap toe or wingtip.

    I don't understand it when people claim that the Strand is a casual shoe. It is a cap toe balmoral, which in black is particularly formal. Sure, the brouging makes them slightly less formal than otherwise, but they are still more formal than a wingtip such as the McAllister, and certainly appropriate to wear with a conservative/formal suit. I'd personally prefer a brogued balmoral in brown or burgundy (making the shoe less formal and easier to dress down, if that's what you need), but outside of SF, and in very conservative work environments, black is very common if not required.

    So I guess you have to ask yourself if you need the high formality of a plain cap toe -- great, but not necessarily required as some here will tell you, for weddings, funerals, interviews, and possibly work, depending on the environment -- or if you could get by with something slightly less formal, but more interesting to you. I chose the PA because I don't wear a suit every day, and also tend to prefer brown or burgundy. So, when I wear a suit, it is for formal events, which suggests a plain cap toe, hence my advice (PA if only one black shoe). You may disagree or lead a different life than mine, and if so, you could do much worse than a black Strand.
     
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    Will an 11E fit very similar to an 11.5D in the Park Avenue? The 11D I tried was too tight, the 11.5D fit pretty good, but the 11D was fine in length, so I am thinking about going for an 11E. Thoughts?
     
  11. Papa Doble

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    I actually started off with a 11 E Park Avenue, and found that I had really bad pinching on the big joint of my big toe, because the natural bend point of the shoe was not far enough away from the heel. I've since switched to an 11.5 D, and they fit perfectly, with no pinching problems. So, I would just caution you to make sure that the length is right, and to judge this mainly on the heel to ball length of the shoe, as opposed to the overall length of the shoe (although of course you should always make sure your toes have enough room as well).
     
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    I am really not a fan of black bals with much going on. I have no idea why, but I automatically think of a shoe that a priest would wear... black with all that brogueing. With that being said, I think it is much harder to find a sharp, classy, dressy black shoe.

    Magnanni Federico is probably my next purchase unless I can find something I really like. I don't like black captoes, and the 5th Ave cap is way too pushed foward to the toe for my likings.

    Pictures do not do this shoe justice, it is very sharp looking, sleek, and actually looked pretty damn good with jeans too

    http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/magnann...in=keywordsearch&fashionColor=&resultback=218

    Hoping to pick them up in a couple weeks depending on the "sale" that they have. If i can scoop them up for low $100's, I will. If not, I might spend a little more time looking for the right black bal.
     
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    ^^^ Said Magnannis

    Eh, I'd rather wear the Park Avenue. Magnanni doesn't do it for me. A black cap toe on Alden's Plaza last would be better (even the Hampton).
     
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  14. SuitedDx

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    This is key, finding a last that fits all the above. Lots of great black bal shoes that meet the aforementioned criteria but the prices arenorth of AE's MSRP; example of one below:
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  15. kmdsimpson

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    No offense, but it's good with jeans because it's too sleek. A bit too fashion forward for wearing with a suit. But if casual wear is your intention, then go for it.
     
  16. kmdsimpson

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    Nice. Are those Vass, or just using Vass trees? If they are Vass, way north of AE prices.

    There's a thread on this new brand called Meermin that is supposedly owned by the same people who own Carmina. Really cheap prices for welted shoes, and apparently lots of customizable options to get a black shoe you like. http://www.styleforum.net/forum/newestpost/277707

    .. and that will be my last non-AE post.. ;) Sorry for the distraction...
     
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  17. SouthNarc

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    Lower G.I. specialist? :D
     
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    I have the Hale in Black, which is a nice combination of captoe with "light" brogueing. A very attractive shoe. This has apparently been discontinued, but i beleive can be had at an attractive price ( I paid $199 when it was on closeout) through the Shoebank.
     
  19. msulinski

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    I guess I am at a loss to think of a situation where I want a black shoe but am not wearing a suit. Merlot or burnished brown would work perfectly well with your charcoal slacks. If you are in a work environment that is so formal that it requires black shoes, I can't see getting away with the Strand. I don't believe that many of these places actually exist.
     
  20. triumphman

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    are those the brown neumora's? and if so, how did you size? I am a 7.5 in barrie & trubalance in aldens.

    And the last one are Frye's? if so I have the same pair in a size 8 :satisfied:

     
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