Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
No need to yell, call your local outlet and they can help you.
lol @ yelling, im not i just had to write in caps to catch attention.
What if im in canada?
Agree that it is important to use shoe trees in all shoes, but especially so in AE shoes. Paul the CEO of AE posted awhile ago on another site why. Due to how AE shoes are made it is important to help prevent bowing over time.
As you probably know, we put a "heel counter" between the lining and the external calfskin of our dress shoes to protect the shape of the heel. We also put what's called a box-toe in front to keep the toe firm and to hold the shape.
There isn't anything stiff on the sides of the shoes, however, for comfort reasons, so the only thing to hold the shape around the ankle over the long term is the cord-like binding that we sew around the topline. We extended the time we leave shoes on the last 3 years ago, just for this very issue. However, if the shoes get jossled around in transport and then sit awkwardly for months on a shelf in inventory, the shape can get compromised. As you wear them, the shoes also take the shape of your foot and walking, by nature, makes the toplines bulge out as the foot flexes. If the shoes are not a great fit, the bulging as you walk can be exacerbated. Shoe-trees and a couple of days rest in a shoe rotation, can help return the toplines to the tightened look.
Thanks for the replies.
Alden's a little out of my price range. But I guess if it would fit really well then it might be worth it. Tough decision.
Edit: All 3 pairs of my shoes are on the 5 last, which is for a long narrow foot; maybe if I try a different last it'll be better?
Check out the 1 last and the 7 last. I know those seem to fit my foot better, a little wider through the ball of the foot, but still a tighter heel.
I don't know if AE has outlets in Canada - check their website. If not, try calling one of the other outlets, I think they ship internationally.
AE has the 678 last for orthotics. Here is the info from their website.
8 Last (678) Modeled after the 4 last, but with a fuller fit and additional depth to accommodate Allen Edmonds removable orthotic
I have the Parliament (no longer made) and the Benton in this last and they are both very comfortable. I have a variety of AE lasts and the 678 last is one of the best fitting for me. They currently offer 2 shoes on this last.
Shipping is free in US. To Canada I am not sure. Get ready to pay taxes out the yin yang on whatever you buy.
I see they have the Benton and the Ashton. The split toe looks pretty good.
I did close to the same - Strawfut Brown/Brown & Players but in chocolate brown.
I also returned a pair of Randolphs in cordovan (burgundy) it appears slip-ons don't fit me well. I'm trading them in for a pair of Cordovan burgundy Cambridges. I do have the McAllister in calf which is said to be the same shoe but I like the cordovans look. Oh well.
still can't find that dark chocolate players in my size...ahhh
and I don't really want the sand suede...but the walnut players I got is so sweet.
The sand suede makes a nice summer shoe.
Couple of questions:
1. Do you think the uppers are too close on these to keep? I recently sized down from a 10.5C to a 10D on the 5 last for the first time after using a few pairs of 10.5Cs I got on ebay for a while, and am wondering whether I should in fact have gone a 10C. These feel pretty good, but I'm worried that with a bit of stretching over time the uppers will come too close together to be able to lace tightly since they're so close already.
For reference, here are my 10.5C Fifth Aves which I have had for a while, the laces of which I feel close pretty correctly (I had assumed that the width of the 10D Park Ave would be the same as the 10.5C Fifth Ave following the usual rules...):
2. Weird question, but how do your AE shoe trees fit? Mine don't seem to slide all the way in, getting caught at the vamp somewhat, meaning that if I press down on the cap toe, at least half of it has no tree inside it. Should they go all the way down into the cap toe, or is this normal?
This is an AE woodlore tree size M ie the recommended size (http://tinyurl.com/chhlf4g) in a 10D Park Ave.
In my opinion, the lacing of the first pair looks indeed a little bit too close. Whether you should keep them depends how much you paid for them. If they are new, I'd consider an exchange.
Generally speaking, both shoes look a little bit long, judging by the position of the crease. I'd suggest to get the Allen Edmonds shoes sizing guide, and measure the length of your feet. Just to make sure.
The sizing guide is a bit generous (about half a size for many AE lasts) but the last time I looked, it seems to works fine for the 5-65 last. Some people seem to size up for this last, probably because it's slightly more narrow and also more flat in the instep when compared to other AE lasts.
How much is the shipping of the shoes within US?
I was quoted 175 for 2 pairs for an international order.
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