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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. cc808314

    cc808314 Senior member

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    @Neo1 , the walking encyclopedia of AE lasts, I need your help. How is the fit of BB Presidio compared with BB San Marco and Aberdeen?
     
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    I'm tempted to say "guess," not to be snarky but because I agree with@smfdoc's metaphor to spices in a stew. I worry that we're creating a 'use this brand/color product and get this result' mindset on our forum. Technique, variations in the leather and/or base coat, camera equipment, lighting conditions, etc. can all effect the images we're sharing. That said, I used 3-4 layers of neutral wax followed by 3 layers of black wax on the heels and toes. All very thin layers, rubbed on with a cloth, allowed to set for a few minutes and then polished with a barely damp cloth using small circles. I treated the rest of the boots with a single layer of oxblood cream.
     
  3. middlepP

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    Her collection was out of control long before mine... Luckily, she doesn't give me too much crap about it - unless those shoe boxes creep on to her side (rather her 2/3) of the closet.

    Yes, I think this is a great option. Thanks for the suggestion.

    Those are an option too. I've shied away from them, just because I wasn't crazy about the split toe. Nice polish job! Yours look great!
     
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    FWIW, I hear mixed things on evolution too, but I ignore those people.:crazy:
     
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    Your list of "haves" (I infer those are shoes you already own) already includes two likely candidates: a suede chukka and the Clark Street, though the latter is perhaps too light to be as versatile as what you are looking for.

    You know, looking at what I have bolded above, I think you have just described a loafer. Perhaps your foot condition doesn't make that doable or maybe you hate them but a dressy loafer (some regard that a oxymoron) would seem to fill the bill, given your criteria. Another thing to consider might be a darkish (but not black) LWB.

    I realize you say you are "still a ways from entering the shell game" but given your affinity for shoes, instead of getting two more pair now, you might consider a single purchase of either a burg shell loafer or shell LWB. Either would cover a lot of bases.
     
  7. oowtfmate

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    Great point. I believe what happened is adjacent to my left hand side was a big window with lots of light coming in. My left inner-thigh is being shadowed and the right thigh is being illuminated.

     
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  8. Neo1

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    I was wondering what happened to you and was sort of thinking you were like,
    oh that jerk Neo telling me to go for the San Marco. Hopefully not :)
    Anyway, this was kind of awesome - I was waiting for someone to ask about the
    Presidio and you're definitely the best candidate I can think of. This may
    be a little lengthy -

    You're one of the few people I think who can get the 222 last to work. The
    tapering it uses can be kind of brutal - meaning if you're an E width or
    greater you probably shouldn't go any further. If I were to make up a scale
    from 1 to 10, 10 being the most brutal, I'd give the Aberdeen like a 1, the
    San Marco a 5 and the Norwich a 10. Unfortunately I'd probably give the
    Presidio something like a 7.5-8. With the Norwich, you have stiff calf, the
    tapered toebox and the double oak sole. The Presidio felt very similar to
    the Norwich in terms of the material/fit but I think the weird sole it used
    (it might have been all rubber even, but it definitely wasn't a double oak)
    sort of saved it from being unmanageable.

    My typical size is 7D. I tried the Presidio in 6.5E, 7D, 7E and 7.5D. As
    you can tell, I loved the look of it and wanted it to work. I thought it was
    sleek and dressy, and since I couldn't get a good fit with either the McGraw
    or Randolph with the lasts they were on, I thought this was a great
    alternative. From the trial and error I determined that 7D was sort of
    "optimal" - problem was that since the top/vamp came down just low enough and
    since the material was so stiff, I could feel the top of my feet aching after
    even like 5 minutes of wear. Not sure how much stretch I could get out of
    this. I really wanted to roll the dice and give them a try but didn't want
    something that looked this good just sitting around in my closet collecting
    dust. If they worked out I'd totally get all 3 colors. But I guess there's
    a reason why they're both so low priced and why there are still so many
    around.

    Hope this helps you out. If you do decide to go for them, definitely let me
    know how they work out.
    Best - Neo
     
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    What's the best price w/shipping on the Saphir renovateur? I'm in the US.
     
  10. middlepP

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    One of my firsts, still one of my favs, and definitely the most complimented pair of shoes I own.

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    Picked up a couple pair of Desoto's for $87 each. They seem to be made of the same leather as my Cronmoks, which means they are VERY flexible and thus very, very comfortable. Mainly I wanted them as something I would wear sockless in the summer as an alternative to my Maritime boat shoes.

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    Any opinions on best brown shoe for suit and business casual use? I'm thinking either the Fifth Ave or McAllister. I'm leaning towards the McAllister right now... I currently own black PAs and walnut Strands.
     
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    If you're looking for something flexible for BOTH suits and business casual, I would stay away from all of those, as they are primarily suit shoes. I think the Lexington, Fort Collins, or Flaturon would work well. The first two are currently on clearance.

    You also may be able to find stray pairs of Kenilworth lying around a store. It may be worth asking your SA to do an inventory check. Good luck!!
     
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    Second the recommendation for the Lexington. Shame the Dainite sole isn't also on clearance, as I prefer them for casual wear.
     
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    depends on your definition of business casual.

    i wear typically creased dress slacks and a dress shirt, no tie, so the mcallisters (merlot for me) still fits the bill.
    sometimes i'll put on a navy blazer..
     
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    I'd be in the same boat. My business casual is far from chinos with a sports shirt and much more similar to your situation which is why I was leaning towards the McAllisters. I should have been more specific in my post.
     
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    I suppose you have to be specific these days since the definition of business casual suddenly means casual, and casual apparently means what I would normally wear to work on my lawn. But hay, its a postmodern world. Your definition of something doesn't have to be my definition of something because all of this is just silly social convention that only means what you want it to mean anyway. Ok. Venting done.

    But seriously, I love the Mcallister in merlot, but would prefer the FA, Lexington, or Cornwalis in brown. The newer Lexington in brown would also give you an inclement weather hero that could certainly pass for a suit shoe as well when you want to keep your PA's dry.
     
  18. redmusic1

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    Quote: FWIW, proving shoe trees do more good at all times would be far easier than "proving" macro evolution (the scientific term would be "evidence" if you are indeed alluding to macro evolution) since we can't sit around for billions of years to observe a single cell spontaneously turning into everything we see living now. With that in mind, proving whether shoe trees should be in at all times or just some of the time would be a relatively easy thing to do if someone wanted to spend the time and money doing it.

    Besides, its about being able to stick a set in the shoes without having to remember which pair I need to remove them from and so on. It's just easier to have a set for every pair if you can catch 3 for 1 at JAB.
     
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  19. oowtfmate

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    Fair enough
     
  20. DGY1atTMW

    DGY1atTMW Well-Known Member

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    Ugh...I'm gonna suggest we throw this out to the more experienced guys here...

    For me, the sudden and expensive discovery that I should be wearing an E width was bad enough...yes the 511 IS roomier in the toebox IMO, but even then I'm starting to feel that my 8.5D Daltons are borderline too tight on my pinky - but acceptable in length, so I'm more comfortable going up in length If I needed to.

    In a 3E?...Me - in that spot - I'm going up 1/2 size length if wiser minds agree it will help, but I'm preparing for either a $10 restocking fee on return or a cobbler and his shoe stretching/insert tongue pad/insert heel pad/ services.

    To be clear, I don't personally wanna go up in length on the 65 because I already find it looooong AND I'm worried about heel slippage - i.e when warned by a Wise Man here [​IMG] that the 97-last was a "vice-like" toebox, I ordered some shell Westchesters in an 8EEE and still found them snug at the pinky AND too long and loose in the heel - with my cobbler's help and $20, they're wear-able now.

    Lessons?:

    A) Some Lasts just AREN'T right for some of us - period
    B) Whatever you purchase, don't be afraid to make adjustments/alterations if possible to get the best fit
    C) Who knew that this shoe fixation thing could get soooo bloody complicated
    D) I try to help, but you prolly want someone who knows better [​IMG]

    GL Sir!
     
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