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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. Oliver84

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    I purchased a pair of walnut strands recently. It's my first pair of Allen Edmonds so I went to the store to be fitted. We tried at least 6 pairs of shoes and we ended up going with the 9.5 C. It felt a bit tight but the 9.5 D had too much "air" on the top front of my feet so he said it's definitely not a 9.5 D. We tried some 10's and I had a slight heel slip. However, the 9.5 C felt really tight, especially when I walk. I can feel my smaller toes touching the inside of the shoe wall if that makes any sense. It bothered me enough to go back and get a second opinion. I met with a different employee there and told her that I thought the shoes were too small and wanted her to measure me again. She checked the fit first and said that they seemed to actually be perfect but she would take a look anyways. She had me try the 9.5 D again and told me the same thing, that it has too much air and that wasn't good. She said that it would take a while for the shoes to break in and that if I really wanted to she could stretch them for me.

    I've always heard that these shoes don't need to be broken in so hearing that and especially the comment about stretching them really got me worried. Do I just have a really odd size (between C and D)? I haven't worn them outside yet so I think I can still either return them or sell them but they make it sound like you need to really wear them in before you can see how comfortable they will be. But by that point if I did get the wrong size, it would be too late to exchange.
     
  2. HealthActuary

    HealthActuary Well-Known Member

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    how about a 9 EE or EEE or something?

    I wonder how you would fare with that
     
  3. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Well-Known Member

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    Bolded statement above is the problem. These will not be flawless shoes. Just "in spec." If you need perfection, look more towards Edward Green or G and G. That notch in the heel is a feature, not a flaw. It's so you don't accidentally catch your pant cuff on the heel. The second picture is a little more bothersome. That looks like a little knock in the leather. How big and how deep is it? It still looks black to me, so that leads me to believe it's very shallow. You could theoretically polish over, or fill with sealing compound and then polish. But if it's deep, then you must return. I advocate high tolerance for AE shoes, especially at deep discount, but a cut in the upper is not acceptable.
     
  4. RichardHarrow

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    I wear a 10D. But my feet are pretty narrow so I'm like in between a C and D. When you put them on and walk they should be comfortable. I don't understand all this breaking in business. The only thing that should break in is the cork under sole that conforms to your feet! But sometimes no matter how much you love the shoe, the last doesn't work for some people's feet. :/
     
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  5. cc808314

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    I don't see a problem in the 1st photo. If you are referring to the cut on inside corner of the heel, that's how they are supposed to be, so that you don't keep catching your pants. In the 2nd photo all that I see is "v" like mark on the leather. As long as it's it's not a cut or a scratch, I wouldn't worry about it.
     
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  6. RLeslieS

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  7. cc808314

    cc808314 Well-Known Member

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    I received the Patriot loafers in Merlot calf from the shoebank. I was really looking forward to these shoes, but what a disappointment!

    1) it took a fair amount of effort by pulling, stretching and bending to get my feet in, and they were not all that small once in. However, I was experiencing significant pressure on the instep.

    2) what's up with the soles sticking out 1/4 inch on every side. They put my reverse welt double oak soles to shame.

    I can't believe these shoes are so popular among SF members. Or did I get a really defective pair?
     
  8. Brown Dynamite

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    Your fit descriptions sound just like mine (although I'm a 13D). I'd suggest upping a width in the 222, although I only have one pair of shoes on this last. I took a 13E (in the Chili Grain Eagle County MTO) and they fit ok. I'd say the 511 is a bit better than the 222, at least for my high instep.

    I should add that I'm almost on the edge of 13D/E but prefer 13D because of my narrow heels. I figure the vamp can always stretch, the heel won't always stop slipping.
     
  9. misterellington

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    Did the ol' NYC Burlington trawl after the gym this afternoon. If you're in or near Brooklyn, pop into the awfulness that is the Atlantic Center mall (Okay...stop at the pretzel place on the ground floor and get the cheddar stuffed pretzels. I'm not allowed to have 'em, so i'll live vicariously through you) and go to the third floor to that Burlington Coat factory and go to the back where you'll find these...

    A GORGEOUS pair of burnished Bleecker Streets in 10D, Walnut Fairmont loafers in 11D, and a pair of Snuff Suede Gobis in an 11D as well...
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    Side views and prices on each below...

    V-Tap Soled Bleecker Streets (Note the “Seconds” shoe brand on the sole. The glitch seems to be the angle of the cuff-saver cut on the right shoe. Eminently forgivable.)
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    Fairmonts... (These are “Seconds” too, from the subtle shoe brand on the “Othello rubber sole. Still Goodyear welted and eligible for full recrafting—and there were two pairs in 11D)
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    Gobis (Missing a lace and the “Seconds” mark, but in pretty good shape—there was also a pair in 10D)

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    BUT THESE...may have been the winners I spotted. Navy Suede McGregors in 11D. Goddamn but I scoured the joint for a pair in 12 for myself, but alas...no dice. Somebody PLEASE get these! Have a friend go down and get 'em for ya... I know, they're “Seconds” probably due to that little bit of stitch drift on the right shoe's sole, but Mercy! These looked beautiful in person!

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    Closing with the usual...“GO GIT 'EM BOYS...” :)
     
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  10. vector

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    Hey guys,

    A bit of an OCD question here. I am apparently between a C and a D according to the size guide online/Brannock device, but the stores here that carry AE (ie. not actual AE stores) don't have C's I can try. I bought a pair of Strands in 9D last month. They feel nice by around mid-day when I tie up the laces tightly. A bit roomy in the morning, though.

    I'm actually about to buy a pair of PA on Nordstrom for their sale and was not sure if I should get a C or a D. I've seen a pretty wide range of lace gaps (ie. super wide to almost nil), and was wondering what constitutes as an ideal lace gap? I took a picture of what mine look like just now (don't mind the pants haha it was just what I was wearing at the time) and was wondering if it's not too narrow. If the gap is too narrow, I'll go with the C, but if you guys think it's ok, I'll just play it safe and go with the D. It's a lot of money to drop so I want to make sure I get the best fit possible :)

    Thanks!
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  11. CGKIII

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    "Ideal" for a closed-lace, broken-in shoe, to me, would be exactly closed and fitting like a glove. The gap on yours looks fine. I'd be wary of going narrower. But in my world at least, pretty much zero people will ever notice (AE SAs, maybe...and even then, probably not).
     
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    Did the ol' NYC Burlington trawl after the gym this afternoon. If you're in or near Brooklyn, pop into the awfulness that is the Atlantic Center mall (Okay...stop at the pretzel place on the ground floor and get the cheddar stuffed pretzels. I'm not allowed to have 'em, so i'll live vicariously through you) and go to the third floor to that Burlington Coat factory and go to the back where you'll find these...








    wow, some awesome finds! May be worth the trip from Jersey...
     
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  13. Oliver84

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    When I tried on the D it felt like it would crease bad because of how much space I had on the top front of my feet. Length wise they were fine, I couldn't go any smaller.

    I just don't know if I'm being too picky comparing my new shoes with my current broken in shoes. I feel like whenever I go to the only AE store around, they are just going to tell me the same thing, that it's the right size.

    I currently have 9.5D Florsheim which feel great but I do think they are a bit wide as I have plenty of room inside. I know it's a competent different shoe but I don't have much to compare with.
     
  14. tharkun

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    @HealthActuary: A 9 would be even worse than the 8. The 8 is borderline OK on the left in length but it's already not ideal especially since I have a special toe problem there that I don't like talking about. I.e. they are sensitive to the shoe rolling over the wrong part of the foot there due to being too long. Especially when walking down stairs.

    I guess I'll have to order MTO a size down on the left next time. But that exacerbates the problem with width fitting and lasts more. Can't just send lots of stock ones I try for the lasts back and then order MTO ;)
     
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    What do they mean when they say they 'lifted' the upper?
     
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    They pull the pattern back towards the rear of the shoe. A few pages back there was a comparison between MacNeil and 2.0. You can see that on the newer one the entire medallion is visible, as opposed to being cut off on the welt (which always bothered me on the original).

    I think it's a good change. It looks more like Carmina. However, I think the shoe looks cheaper without the piping. Especially the Leeds and Dundee.
     
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  17. bellyhungry

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    I see....Thank you.
     
  18. HealthActuary

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    my post was meant for the poster right above me, not you lol :p
     
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    I have been coming to this thread and the MTO thread less and less lately. The MTO thread because of the obviousl lack of activity, as you might expect. This thread, however seems to have turned into a place where people with 3 posts come to show their new AEs and ask if flaws I never would have noticed are worth returning, expected better, if I pay this kind of money..., etc, etc.

    I'm not trying to call anyone out specifically, but it has kind of ruined this thread for me. Maybe its because the unrealistic expectations and value for nothing mentality reminds me that craft and quality is being priced, positioned, and six sigma'd out of life. People want perfection, but they're not paying retail for it. It makes me sad. AE makes $300-$400 shoes. The lasts arent great, the leather isnt great, the construction isnt great. If those things were great, the shoes would cost twice as much.

    I think part of it is that AE has pushed seconds as a business model and that we (this board) have consistently gotten pretty good deals on seconds with very minor flaws that we've been conditioned to expect really good from seconds and perfect from firsts.

    Maybe I just didnt sleep well and I am grumpy, but it seems to me that this forum used to be about geeking out over shoes and clothes and now its mostly about complaining (I am aware of the pure balls irony here) and indignation. More and more, I find myself willing to pay for quality with fewer compromises. I probably wont buy many more AE shoes. Not because of the quality, their shoes are reasonably well priced for what you get, but rather because they just dont fit me very well. I guess I am just getting old and miss the good old days. Or maybe I'm just a douche...
     
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  20. epc2

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    Brown Jeffersons today.
     
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