Patrick, that's what I wanted to hear. I know I can't fit into the Players' narrow 2 last, and I've had my eye on the brown cordovan Strand on #5. I was about to mentally write them off if the 5 was similar to the 2 in width. Although I will say that I saw the Strand in person yesterday (did not have time to try them on), and just eyeballing them they looked a little narrow. Of course, I need to try them on at some point. I also saw the MacNeil in burgundy cordovan yesterday, I was really impressed. It was much better looking in person than I expected.