Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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    Well, the point of having a business is to generate money and I think this is the right thing for companies to focus on. Without this focus, there would be no businesses left. I suspect, however, what you really mean, is that you want AE to continue delivering a valuable product rather than just a product. It is this characterization that I agree with you on.
     


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    I want them to continue to delivering a valuable product manufactured in the USA
     


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    http://soul-socks.com/

    I went to the link the other day when it was posted. They don't ship to Canada, but I was able to buy 4 pairs at once and get them shipped for $3, as opposed to the monthly structure. Really nice guy running it.
     


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    All very valid scenarios and maybe all true, to some extent - none of us know for sure. My 3-bits (already gave my 2), is that MW would realize HUGE growth in the AE brand, just by offering it in even a percentage of their 1000+ stores. AE is obviously profitable with online sales and a handful of banner stores, along with their few retail partners - nowhere near 1000 points of distribution. Even if they hit 500-700 MW stores, will the 'current' AE be able to keep up? Not without changes. Will quality suffer? We all hope not. Will they be able to continue Paul's MTO offer? I don't see how. Will they continue all the special webgems and shell offerings? Maybe that ties up resources for limited profit, that could be moved towards supplying their new distribution channel. Of course everything I'm throwing out there is purely selfish, wanting AE to remain the flexible, creative, quality company they are today. But from all the investment points made eloquently by members above, AE would only improve their bottom line by supplying their new masses. Making one of us a MTO is a nice gesture, but how much does it add to their owner's bottom line? Pumping out 5 times as many Strands and PAs does... It will sure be interesting to re-read all these comments in a year or two. We all might be reflecting on "the good old days when I got a custom pair of shoes made by that little company Allen Edmonds before they became so big".
     


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    I 100% agree, the facts are the facts, however I think AE learned a thing or two from Cole Haan and J&M about the negative implications of going offshore, wouldnt you agree?

    Both of their brands have suffered as a result, and I don't predict that would happen with AE.
     


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    ...and AE has shown that a company can be profitable and grow while keeping production in the US and quality high.
     


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    I'd agree with your theory of seeing more high end AE shoes in the future if it was Brooks Brothers buying AE. It's Mens' Wearhouse, though, which means we're likely to see a great increase in the AE non-goodyear welted line of shoes that will now be offered at MW. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though, as long as AE continues to maintiain the quality of its mainline and Independence line shoes and sells the higher end shoes at Nordstrom, Brooks Brothers and the AE stores.
     


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    I'm so frustrated by this discussion of the MW offer to purchase AE that I'm stepping away. The neat thing about a forum like this is that allows a community of interest to join in a conversation no matter where they may reside. It's hard to have a conversation, however, when so many people contributing to it have obviously not read the earlier relevant posts or ANY of the published news reports. I'm out. I still very much appreciate AE, but I'll leave this thread to people who prefer to send pictures of their feet to strangers than to engage in thoughtful discourse.
     


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    Yeah, the guys in my local store said that's what they were doing.


    A friend of mine went with me to the store and wanted to get a Neumok in cognac, or chili. Neither of those colors are a part of their regular custom shoe ordering portal, and so they got in touch with a big wig in Port W/the factory who said "We're not at the point where we can make that shoe in those colors. However, we're getting there." He went on to say that hopefully within the next year the expansion will be complete and they will be able to put any upper on any sole they manufacture.


    pretty much you will be able to order anything you want in 6-8 weeks
     


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    I can verify this. I was having lunch with Paul this week and he complained that the factory has seen a significant increase in MTO boots in size 14, which has led to a spate of workers' compensation injuries from workers trying to lift them. The new MTO production line will include specialized equipment like this to help the employees work on future size 14 MTO's.

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    Yup, I agree and am not even mentioning or suggesting that they'd move production off shore. But will they continue MTO's and time consuming, troublesome shell offerings? If I'm a MW shareholder, sitting in a Board Meeting (wearing my MW Suit and Joseph Abboud shoes), do I care about the warm-fuzzy feeling SF members get from MTOs or the elusive cordovan? All I care about is the bottom line - move resources over to production lines pumping out the top sellers in our 1000 MW stores. That's where the profit is... I too agree that moving off shore and making AE something it isn't, won't work. But making all the custom put-ups that everyone likes to read about on SF will likely go the way of the dodo bird. Face it, whoever buys AE is going to overpay for it, and better have grand ideas on how to pay that back and show returns to shareholders.
     


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    Confirmed, $159 at Shoebank. Order on the way! Thanks Cincikid.
     


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    For what, the Aberdeen?
     


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    If AE does sell, and thier quality does go down... From which maker would you buy your shoes?
     


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