Thank you so much for clearing things up. I think the name of the style I'm looking for is the balmoral boot? I want one with speed hooks and thicker shoe laces like the ones found on the promontory boots. Do you think I can add speed hooks to the fifth streets? I don't really mind the medallion. Here is a pic that I found on the forums of what I am looking for: http://www.styleforum.net/t/154268/allen-edmonds-balmoral-boot-in-the-works/60 It is the first pic in that thread posted posted by member jeffswood. That is the EXACT style that I want. Sorry I don't really know what you call that style. Wish I knew what it was called. That is why these forums are so great for learning! Man those boots in burgundy or brown cordovan would look SOOOO nice.