Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
Thanks to both of you for sharing. I do have overpronation and wear a ProStep insert with them.
Still, I never see this problem with other makers. I'm not sure what it is about AE that makes it an issue.
The 5 last is a harsh mistress...
My first 2 pairs of AE's were on the 5 last, and i did realize that they do have a gap on the sides when i stand flat footed. The heel does not slip though, and it is a comfortable fit otherwise. Having said that, it was definitely troubling enough for me to stop buying shoes on that last.
Im currently based in china but wished to get in on the LE dundees. So i email allen edmonds and got this reply:
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does it seem legit? has anyone purchased from AE using this method?
Yes it sounds legit to me. The Limited Editions are called "webgem" and sold only on the website or through the AE stores (but not stocked in the AE stores). It is new marketing for AE and they are not using the normal channels of distribution. When I called about the Dundee it took a few transfers at AE till I got what they called the web sales person.
LE have this 25% off promotion going on for regularly priced merchandise + free shipping.
The condition is as below:
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When I tried to check out using the promo code, the discount did not get applied.
If you look on the page for the Macneils, there is this bullet:
Please note: Promotion Code Savings not valid on this item.
This happens on all my AE shoes. Happened on my "Bates" in the military as well but not nearly as much as my AE shoes.
Yes it is only cosmetic, but there is still some little creasing caused on the inner portions on the leather that would otherwise not be there.
Is it a show-stopper? No - but I would rather it not be there...
Didn't really think it was my foot causing this...but maybe being a bit flat-footed is contributing to the bulge I get.
It really gets pronounced when hell striking the inner bulge is huge then!
Being flat footed absolutely causes it. I am 100% flat footed - no hint of an arch. I can't wear certain styles because they bow out in a just silly way.
And how, my congratulations to the SF members who fit well in the #5 last. I'm road testing my 2nd pair of Nordstrom PAs. Not bad so far, but if my luck doesn't improve, the Nordstrom Rack will overflow with my cast offs.
I noticed a gap even when wearing shoes that were too small (tight in the heel and instep albeit a smaller gap). I am flat footed, but the gap remains the same whether or not I use an arch support. I also noticed a similar gap when trying on oxfords from that other American shoe company.
I have flat feet but wear orthotics so I fill the volume of the shoe. I own 2 leeds (shell and calf), 2 Wilberts, Shelton, and the Bayfield & Dalton boots, all on the 1-511 last and none of them have bowing issues. The shell Bradley's that I received last week are bowing badly. I talked to CS today and am sending them back to try again. I've spent a lot of time researching this and it does seem to be a common issue especially lately with AE shoes. Seems to come up most often with the Bradley's and Strand. But others as well. If the Bradley's weren't shell I might accept them as is. However the more I look at it the more it bothers me. My heel also slips a lot more in the Bradley's than my others on the same last. Well except for my shell Dalton boots, the heel area in those is huge.
Retired military and my Bates never bowed, I have a low volume foot in addition to being flat. Back then I couldn't wear orthotics but got narrow shoes and boots when ever I could. I have been told by several doctors I have some of the flattest feet they have ever seen. There is an active thread on AAAC where someone has the same bowing issue and he thinks it is because he has high arches. So I'm not convinced that it is foot anatomy in every case. Some have tried the same model shoe on in the AE store and not had bowing. So there is some variation somewhere.
I agree with you 100%. You can look at the shoes when not being worn and tell which pairs will do it especially bad. I strongly suspect that it's related to how the shoes are lasted.
One other possible cause could be the low cut rear quarter of the shoe. I held up a Delray (8 last) next to my Alden Aberdeen NST and from the base of the heel to the top of the leather you can see that the Alden is higher by about 1/4 inch or so. It seems to narrow the throat a bit and maybe that helps as my Alden's don't do it.
I tried my PAs without the arch supports allowing my heel to sit a little lower. My heel fits much better. Actually the whole shoe fits better, but my low arch gets pinched a little by the edge of the insole. Using a lock lace pattern doesn't seem to make a difference. But I think you're on to something.
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