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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. reidrothchild

    reidrothchild Senior member

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    I've had the non-flush, plastic toe taps put on two pairs of shoes. They do look cheap and definitely do not look as cool as the flush mounts, but I have to balance the cheapness of their looks when people can see the bottom of my shoes with the wear they save on the toe of my shoes, which is visible at all times. Might have to ask my cobbler if he does the flush kind.

    As for Winston S's problems with his Strands, there are definitely some significant issues there that would certainly bug me for $300 shoes. However, I think the awesomeness of AE's 2nds program tends to cause us to forget that these shoes are designated as 2nds because they supposedly have significant defects that would prevent people from paying full price for them. Not saying Winston shouldn't return and hope for better luck next time, just that everyone should buy 2nds understanding that there's a reason that good-year welted, full-grain leather, American-made shoes are so cheap. So anyway, that's a long way of saying that I'd keep 'em if AE didn't have another pair of 2nds in my size.
     
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  2. PhiPsi32

    PhiPsi32 Senior member

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    You mean many "happy" years of retirement. I wish you every success in that regard.
     
  3. nerdykarim

    nerdykarim Senior member

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    Just got my five year old Colton's back from the cobbler with some new toes:
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    high rez
     
  4. SuitedDx

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    I really can't tell how much te medallion is off but I have been looking using my phone. The heel is always going to vary because it depends on how well the trimmer rounds the heel out. My experience with shoes is that there is always a difference (even with my C&J, Alden, and to some extent my Grenson Masterpiece).

    If you NEED the shoes, are you willing to pay $200 more for first quality? Psychologically, if you wear them enough, you will eventually habituate to them being off centered and not notice. I have a pair of shoes with the broguing off at the toe; they bothered me at first but after 6 months I stopped thinking about it.

    Sorry Your Strands have those issues. Mine have minor issues (cut of leather heel counters could be better) but otherwise negligible. I hope my Cambridge are okay.
     
  5. Winston S.

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    Does anyone really NEED $300 - $600 cordovan shoes?

    I'm going to sleep on it and decide what to do on Monday.

    Thanks for the thoughts so far.
     
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  6. PhiPsi32

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    I NEED $8k bespoke cordovan shell, but I'll settle for AE seconds . . .
     
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    i can only really tell the difference from the first picture, not so much on the second picture. and the rest of them I can live with, plus the price is right!
     
  8. CJG_NYC

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    I was thinking the same thing -- I think the Neumok even in suede has a much more deconstructed look that might cause its versatility to be limited. It also seems that the stitching on the Neumok is lighter which I think makes them even more casual. Thanks for your input!


    Thanks for the Birthday wishes -- and for your input! How did the Players look with the red laces? I never though much about the colored laces until looking at the Neumok (and some other shoes lately) but am very interested to hear how the color laces looked on the Player. I tend to like Balmoral's better in general, but I think you might be right -- as a spring/summer shoe a blucher is a great choice (and hence this is why I was really having my issue deciding between the two).

    How was the snuff suede? I'm afraid its too light and therefore hard to keep clean. Any thoughts on that? Would you go with the snuff or the bitter chocolate for versatility?

    Thanks again!!


    This was another factor confusing my issue. I have Strands, Fifth Aves and Park Aves and the Neumok is on the 5-last which I really like so far on my foot. Might have to give the 2 a shot though!
     
  9. ElDave

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    I found the Neumok to be an incredibly poor fitting shoe. I tried on 4-5 different sizes and nothing fit right. Plus, I hate elongated toes.
     
  10. SuitedDx

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    That's what I usually do and (sometimes) I later decide to pass. I know it's not an option but I wonder if these shoes were re-lasted and have the re-attached if it could be re-aligned. Pragmatically I know this does not make sense but curious about the secret magic of cobblers. :)
     
  11. kmdsimpson

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    You are absolutely correct, and it's a totally fair point.

    For me, the medallion is something I could not live with. Little nicks and scratches, or a shoe that has shop wear, I can. Even some of the sloppiness in assembly, like when they chip the sole or the heel is not on right or something, would probably not bother me, as I'd be thinking about the next time I got them resoled anyway. But the medallion is just one those things that is too big to overlook.

    But your point to keep things in perspective is a good one.
     
  12. kmdsimpson

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    i think that is another thing putting me off them. Now, the Player is also a long last, but for some reason it ends up looking classic to me.
     
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    Been contemplating on picking up some Leeds... always hard purchasing shoes on a new last (at least for me). I'm so used to Alden's Barrie (LWB & PTB) but the 2nds price might be worth a look. If only I liked the MacNeils more than Alden's LWB... I'd actually get shoes on sale...
     
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    The problems with AEs seconds are typical with what you get with the firsts. My last 4 pairs (Bayfield, Malvern, Montecito, FA) came with the usual black scuffs. The heels never match up, one shoe is always a little longer than the other,...
    I don't think the problems with the seconds are very significant.
     
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  15. bucksfan

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    For what it's worth, I find the AE 1 last (Leeds) and 7 last (MacNeil) run tts for me, and I find I need to size down 1/2 for the Barrie.
     
  16. knezz

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    You won't sleep!

    My humble opinion is to send them back. My reasoning is that the Strand is still in production and another (hopefully better copy) seconds will show up in your size. For me, the medallion is one of the most important visible parts of the shoe.

    If were something you really liked and it was being retired then it may be different. Just me 1/2 cent...

    Also, what size?
     
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    The Neumok is not available in as many sizes as say a PA or McAllister. I am going to try on a pair next week, but I expect that I will need to special order my size. I'm partial to the red Neumok. I haven't seen that color anywhere else yet. The blue Neumok is also striking but I've seen a similar color in Trickers.

    SA also told me that the Neumok fits a little more snug than the usual #5.
     
  18. Ayrton

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    I would have to agree...

    If you can swap them, I would.
     
  19. Winston S.

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    I think if they were re-lasted, the part of the leather that was underneath the shoe might be a lighter color than the rest of the shoe and not as aged.
     
  20. spicolli1976

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    I have a question regarding the McAllister. I am a 10.5 c in the Hale (#8 last and fit perfectly) and have the opportunity to buy a barely used McAllister in 10D (#5 last). Can I please get your opinions on whether this will fit or be too tight.

    Thanks!!!
     
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