Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. cbfn

    cbfn Senior member

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    As said, it all depends on how you want the shoes to look. I have no experience with the waxy leather from AE, but I personally would have conditioned them. If you want to read more about shoe care, here's the bible.
     


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    I was thinking the same thing. Obenauf LP is my product of choice for pull up leathers. I have no experience with AE's rough, waxy leathers either but they kinda look like CXL. I've found that once i use LP (like on my Wolverine 1K's) it's real hard to get any shine on the toe. I didn't exactly want a mirror shine on the 1k's so its not a big deal. But as Christian indicates above, it all depends on what you want them to look like. If you never want a shine, go with MPB of LP. If you do want to dress them up a bit and burnish or antique the toe, I'd use renovateur and the regular wax polish of your choice, kiwi, saphir, ae, etc. Good luck, they do look nice.

    The other benefit of Obenauf LP and MPB is that you will increase water resistance dramatically. I also like the sheen (not a shine really) that my boots get with the LP.
     


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    Regarding the Independence collection and sole thickness

    I was listening to the video with Paul and Mark McNeil (head of design) and they mentioned something about the sole thickness at about 1 minute and 22 seconds (something about being another iron thickness)



    Can someone please clarifiy?

    Thanks
     


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    "Irons" are the measure of sole thickness. You would say "give me a 5 iron sole" to a cobbler for instance. The independence collection have soles which are thicker than standard by one iron. If you want to know an exact measurement for one iron, I'm sure google can tell you.
     


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    I have the Black Hills and used AE Cleaner Conditioner on them. Buffed them off and they look great.

    Chris
     


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    I had to look it up and found this description at:

    http://www.tulsashoerebuilders.com/resole-by-Tulsa-Shoe-Rebuilders.html

    Leather of various thicknesses defined by a thickness measurement based on ounces per square foot or by a thickness measurement called the "iron." Example: a piece of 6 oz leather will be roughly 1/8 inch thick, or 4.5 iron or visually the thickness of 2 dimes stacked up. A piece of leather that is 16 oz will be roughly 1/4 inch thick and about the same thickness as 4 dimes stacked.

    An Italian dress shoe many times utilizes an 8 iron whereas cowboy western boots use from 10/11 iron to perhaps as heavy as a 13 iron. Other mens dress shoes commonly use a 9 iron or even 10/11 iron based on the construction and service of the shoe.

    We use a 11/12 iron. Many times the thickness measurement is given in a range (like 11/12) since the process doesn't allow exact to the mm tanning of hide and the fact that hides are not grown in a set and certain thickness, flawlessly.

    Where on a cowhide does the sole come from? It comes from an area of the cowhide referred to as "the bend." The "bend" is a portion of the cowhide that runs on either side of the backbone.
     


  7. JubeiSpiegel

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    Stopped by my local AE store, they already had the Flatiron on the new 3 last, so i took pictures:

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    In black, which looks pretty elegant.

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    In walnut, with the burnished toe. Which is more subtle than expected, especially on the mate...

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    Here is the mate, you can notice the burnishing is lessened. Side profile looks very much like the Kenilworth, aside from the elongated chiseled toe.

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    Front view, i noticed they were digging deeper in to the outer sole when doing the stitching. Had kind of a half cylindrical effect in some places, especially the heel...:confused:

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    Bottom of outer sole looks elongated as well, as to be expected.

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    A very interesting part about the insole, they seem to be trying something different again. It is no longer a hard insole, it has some cushioning now, some kind of glued layer added... :eh:

    The burnishing varied from shoe to shoe, i really wish they would find some consistency with that. Otherwise, the chiseled toe looks pretty good, very contemporary. Can't wait to see the Newmora...
     
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    Thanks for the pictures. When I bought my macneils I took a look at the flatiron as well. It seems significantly longer than the #5 last. I wonder if the #3 will overtake the #5 as the longest, narrowest last. I didn't compare two of the same sized shoes for reference but at first glance the flatiron seemed much longer looking than the kenilworth.
     
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    I really like the look of the 3 last. Very contemporary. It looks to be about as long and narrow as the 7 last, though, which gives me pause. I really like the look of my 7 last Delrays, but the elongated toe has not worn well for me. The left shoe on my Delrays has creased in two separate places in the toe box, which almost looks like one large (1.5 inch thick) crease. No such problems in my 5 last shoes.
     


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    I got the Fifth Avenue and Strands that I ordered from the outlet when they had the seconds sale on.

    Even though they used USPS, I got dinged HST, which I think is to be expected. No duties though, so that's great. In total it was $500 for walnut Strands and black Fifth Avenues.

    I was a bit apprehensive about what would have made these seconds, especially after the pictures of the person with the Strands where the brogueing was off by a bit. I'm happy to report the only flaw was that the tongue had some extra stitching. It's an odd problem, and I only detected it when I tried to put the shoe on, everything else is perfect.

    One side of the tongue is stitched onto the vamp(?) on the underside higher than normal. So when you raise the tongue to put the shoe on, it's a tad harder. It's only for one side, and it's the same problem for each pair of shoes.

    I'm really happy with the purchases. $250 all told to get into my hands in Toronto is pretty good I'd say.
     


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    Was just about to cop a pair then realized that the 9 was only in B width. I am going to try and give my local stores a call. Edit: Local store closest to me does not have it, but they said they would get an 8.5 and 9 in store for me to try on.
     
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    I wonder if that's Poron or something similar, like they are doing for the Brooks Brothers shoes. I think I'd rather do without, TBH.
     


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    SA also figured it was some kind of poron insole, It's not as slick though and it was not wrapped around the insole like a normal poron. AE sure likes to keep us on our toes... :D
     


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    Thanks for the pics. I immediately liked the look of the Flatiron as it reminded me of a blucher version of the Augusta.
     


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    What do you all thing about the Allen Edmonds Parson's design competition contestants? There was a link on the AE site showing all the contestants (the winner will get their shoe produced). The link seems to be offline now on the site, but you can still see the presentations on youtube. My favorite one seems to be the Welding- a sleek boot with a "spat"... seems to be very unique and suited for everyday wear.
     


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